To all that called Truth1253 a liar.You know who you are,

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by Mrs.Truth1253, Aug 14, 2016.

  1. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

    [QUOTE="Mrs.Truth1253, post: 2492226,

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    The 1.4 oz medal, which I believe is the one you have, is a gold plated issue. The mint produced a 90% gold medal, 23 mm in dia., .415 oz actual weight, .3735 troy oz., with a mintage of 181 pieces. They were also struck in various other sizes. Proceeds from these sales went to the National Scholarship Fund. These were also struck in silver and bronze. If your medal is the .900 gold version, it,s only worth scrap because of poor handling. By the way, something should be done with those nails!
     
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  3. USS656

    USS656 Here to Learn Supporter

    I have taken out the personal crap in this thread - any more shows up and I will issue infractions! No more warnings and I don't care who you are.
     
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  4. Earle42

    Earle42 Member

    OK kids (sorry - former math teacher) let's do the math:
    From the link here:
    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/national-bicentennial-medal.216522/

    and the above pics we see the closest match from this list to the above pics is the
    - 1-5/16" / Gold, Proof finish / 1.167 troy ounces of gold / $400.00

    Let's see what a medal of pure gold of same dimensions should weigh.
    1. We don;t know the exact thickness (which is needed) but can estimate.
    2. The pics seem to show a 1 5/16 " match for diameter = 1.3125"
    3. Therefore radius = .65625
    4. Volume of a circular, cylindrical surface in simplisitc form is its height time pi times its radius squared.
    5. The pics seem to indicate a thickness of just under 1/8th inch. So lets use a full 1/8th (.125) and also half of that (.0625) and see if the pic of the coin's weight on the scales is somewhere in between.
    For the .125 (1/8) thickness we get:
    Height (thickness in this case) X 3.14 X Radius^2 (which means radius times radius)

    .125 X 3.14 X .6525^2 = .1671 cubic inches of gold

    The thinner calculation:
    0.625 X 3.14 X .6525^2 = .0836 cubic inches of gold

    according to:
    http://www.aqua-calc.com/calculate/volume-to-weight

    The first calculation gives a weight of 1.87 oz

    The thinner calculation gives: .93 oz

    The pic of the coin on the scales fits between these two - and is actually closer to the thicker one where we already know the thickness is not quite 1/8.

    If I had to make an educated guess, I would say the coin is gold.

    Please correct any errors for me in the above.
     
  5. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Oh come now, on CT...been a while since I have seen an incensed poster educating all the absolute novices on this board (sarcasm).
     
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  6. NYandW

    NYandW Makes Cents!

    Geez, come here to learn/relax and it's a Trump/Hillary war zone...sad
     
  7. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    In the other thread that I guess the mods took down, someone posted the order form from the US mint. It showed the 1 5/16 gold medal. That is what the OP of that thread posted. How did this get so jacked up?
     
  8. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    I wish the moderators would scuttle this thread, too. Too many words have been expended over the sorriest excuse for a collectable I've ever seen.
     
  9. MKent

    MKent Well-Known Member

    That;s those chocolate coins wrapped in gold paper.
     
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  10. TJ1952

    TJ1952 Well-Known Member

  11. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    It may most certainly be gold from the discussion. I'm quite intrigued as there is still no sign of the gold hallmark. Perhaps it is on the edge which is not shown in details yet.

    Sometimes it's inevitable for people to be skeptical due to the huge flood of counterfeits. I myself would have done the same without much evidence. That said, it's never a good idea to burn bridges.
     
  12. Blissskr

    Blissskr Well-Known Member

    Thin skin I imagine. Initially while researching into the medal before knowing that the middle size gold existed and based off the OP's simple photo of the medal in a 2x2. I had stated that I believed he might have unfortunately got swindled with a gold plated bronze. That was enough to cause an issue with personal attacks apparently. Yet even so I still took my own time researching it further and found the original order form confirming the middle sized gold coin at 1 5/16th's existed .906 gold existed. I also stated I would still like to see the exact variety of pictures that have now been posted in this thread before changing my initial determination. In all I have no hard feelings about it and I'm glad OP's coin turned out to be real.

    I disagree these medals are unique piece of U.S. mint exonumia. At the time the United States mint wasn't minting any gold coins for public sale and these gold commemorative medals along with the commemorative arts medals which came a few years later in reality likely paved the way for the start of the AGE program.
     
  13. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    And there we have it..... the OP and/or his supposed "Mrs" can bellyache all they want, but the fact is that in the other now-poofed thread, we were given very little in the way of information, having to guess as the size based upon a flip, etc, so it shouldn't be surprising there was some confusion. No one here can magically read minds. I too was wrong, but this is a two-way street.
     
  14. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    Then if that's not how it works why was the second screen name on line yesterday at 4:59 p.m., according to the profile? @chrisild
     
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  15. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    Such a ban does not keep people from coming to the "surface" of the site, but it does prevent forum activity. Guess that Doug @GDJMSP knows more about how this works, but somebody who is temporarily or permanently banned cannot participate here ...

    Christian
     
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  16. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    Thanks Christian!
     
  17. charlietig

    charlietig Well-Known Member

    I'll second that !
     
  18. Christopher290

    Christopher290 Active Member

    Good ol' drama... there is always someone trying to disturb the peace of a forum... thanks Christian!
     
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