Got a nice VAM

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Sean5150, Aug 11, 2016.

  1. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    I'm really sorry but I am way out of my league on this and this whole thread has been a new learning experience. I have only been to a few coin shows but never took the opportunity to check out Morgan's. My collection has been hit and miss for the most part when the feeling moved me to add another. I certainly do not doubt your expertise in this whatsoever. Looking at the pics all I can really see in the luster is dull at the flat strike compared to the rest of the original luster. I cannot answer #2 & #3 because this is the first time I have ever seen this and I do not know the specifics involved in a coin being struck this way. I have never seen it on other coins. And by the way, I would never block anyone because they disagreed with me, because, as I've always said, I can be and have been wrong and I'm easily willing to take pie in the face for jumping the gun. I was not trolling when I posted though but I should have waited awhile before I said something.
     
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  3. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    @tommyc03

    I'm really sorry but I am way out of my league on this and this whole thread has been a new learning experience. NO you are not. You have two eyes and you answered Question#1 perfectly! Flat strike luster is dull, not frosty. and a different color because it reflects light differently.I have only been to a few coin shows but never took the opportunity to check out Morgan's. My collection has been hit and miss for the most part when the feeling moved me to add another. I certainly do not doubt your expertise in this whatsoever. Looking at the pics all I can really see in the luster is dull at the flat strike compared to the rest of the original luster. I cannot answer #2 & #3 because this is the first time I have ever seen this and I do not know the specifics involved in a coin being struck this way. I have never seen it on other coins. And by the way, I would never block anyone which is an excellent idea because we can learn from everyone EVEN those with an incorrect answer or opinion. because they disagreed with me, because, as I've always said, I can be and have been wrong and I'm easily willing to take pie in the face for jumping the gun. I was not trolling when I posted though but I should have waited awhile before I said something. Now, while you re on a "roll" look at the OP coin and describe what the original surface looks like when there is a hit.
     
  4. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    To my eyes, I see full white luster but maybe because of the photo or this particular type of strike, not the "cartwheel" effect ? I'm still learning mind you. I only have a few B.U.'s in my set which do have the cartwheel effect. The rest are in Fine to Extra Fine range.
     
  5. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    OK, impact damage on a frosty original coin leaves a bright, shiny hit. Look at the patch of cartwheel in the field in front of the face.
     
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  6. Sean5150

    Sean5150 Well-Known Member

    The cartwheel is kind of hard to miss on this one. Here's another photo just for fun. You can see the die scratch going from the R to the S in Pluribus. I've also wondered if some hits are actually strike throughs from crud in the die/planchet.

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  7. Sean5150

    Sean5150 Well-Known Member

    Here's some more photos of the VAM itself
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  8. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    She's hit too hard for a market MS64. Market MS63/MS62. Interesting VAM, though. Ever think this could be the only one captured in a GSA holder?
     
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  9. Sean5150

    Sean5150 Well-Known Member

    I know of others, but the VAM 2D/2E are REALLY rare. After spending some time with it I agree it doesn't have a chance at 64, but 62 seems too low to me for a GSA.
     
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  10. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Yeah, it'll probably get a gift bump to 63 being a gsa as its on the 62/63 line. Wait, didn't I say this a page or two ago?
     
  11. Sean5150

    Sean5150 Well-Known Member

    Yeah, but you didn't know what a VAM was :p
     
  12. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    It's short for Vampire right? :p
     
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