Calling Doctor Insider....STAT! STAT!

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by TJ1952, Aug 14, 2016.

  1. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Good to know. I would have expected it to fog the plastic immediately, even without any rubbing at all. Still not sure I'll be brave enough to try it myself, though.
     
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  3. TJ1952

    TJ1952 Well-Known Member

    For the coin collector who has everything:

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  4. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Lighter fluid or any (get ready for this) aliphatic hydrocarbon will not harm most kinds of plastic since it is not a solvent for them.
     
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  5. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I didn't realize there was a great difference in solvent power between aromatic and aliphatic compounds. Now I know -- both acrylic and polycarbonate plastics stand up pretty well to aliphatics ("mineral spirits") but not aromatics (xylene, toluene, benzene that you can't buy any more anyhow) or chlorinated solvents (like methylene chloride/dichloromethane). They also don't like acetone one bit.

    When I was looking through all the different Goof-Off MSDS pages, I saw that several of them include chlorinated or aromatic components and/or acetone. I'd still be nervous unless I knew exactly which one I was using.
     
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  6. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    First, we use Goo Gone on the coins and then acetone. Go Gone is probably like Goof Off.
    Goo Gone also cleans tape and magic marker off slabs too.

    You should add some distilled water, coin care, verdi-care, baking soda, and sudsy ammonia to your lab. There are other things I left out that the chemists here may wish to add.
     
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  7. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    I believe goo-gone is orange oil based and goof-off is hydrocarbon based similar to lighter fluid. I could be wrong though
     
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  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I'm amazed sometimes at some of the things you recommend. Coin Care for example, (the OP has that in his picture by the way), leaves behind an oily residue on the coins. Yeah, the maker claims it's a protectant, but it really isn't. And yeah, it's fooled many a collector and dealer into thinking that a copper coin it's been used on is a lot nicer than it really is. It's even fooled a TPG or two at times. But in the end it's just not good for your coins, and if the TPG checks the coins well enough it will even cause the coin to be put in a problem coin slab.

    And ammonia ? In my experience, and everything I've read, that's always a bad idea. Pretty much the same thing for baking soda. Yeah the stuff may work as in get something off a coin, but what else has it done to the coin ? It's kind of like saying you get stuff off a coin with a piece of sandpaper or a wire brush - and yeah you can. But what else does it do to the coin ?

    That said, I know that sometimes a certain product or chemical will do things for you, meaning get something off a coin, that other things won't. But then you need to use something to get to counteract and/or get the residue left behind the first time because if you don't then it will harm the coin. And sometimes you may even need to use a 3rd thing to get the 2nd thing off.

    The problem with all this is - if you don't know all of that when you start - you can end up with mess on your hands. And often a ruined coin.
     
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  9. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Thanks, I'll need to get some to try. Never replaced the lighter fluid at work but I just may need to. It's funny how some common chems don't touch a residue and another will take it right off in seconds. Often it is a trial and error thing as long as the coin is not harmed. I use all kinds of different stuff.
     
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  10. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    WORDS TO THE WISE:

    ...and let me say this as I have posted it before. I have seen a silver coin "treated" with a baking soda paste right before my eyes; yet I could not detect ANY evidence of this treatment using a stereo microscope! :jawdrop:
    NOTE: Please DO NOT try this at home.:D
     
  11. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    [​IMG]
    What would MacG...err... Insider do? ;-)
     
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  12. TJ1952

    TJ1952 Well-Known Member

    Like @GDJMAP say: The coin care plus MS 70 leaves behind major oily residue. You can't get MS 70 off your fingers. I use rubber gloves. Warn soapy water and clean distilled water.....I rinse rinse rinse the coins! I don't want "any" residue left behind that could be detected the TPG'ers. Like @Insider says: Trial and error. I use this stuff VERY sparingly.

    You need..

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    ..to get MS 70 off your fingers if you don't use gloves.
     
  13. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor

  14. TJ1952

    TJ1952 Well-Known Member

    13. When Richard Dean Anderson Was Once Locked Out of His House …
    … he found a way inside. Anderson had gone to a cast and crew holiday party during the first season, which he found unexciting. He and a friend moved over to a gathering for Cheers instead; when Anderson made it home, he couldn’t get in. Relating the story to a TV Guide reporter, Anderson thought the most efficient solution was to pick up a nearby bench and throw it through the front window. A friend later sent him a new bench: it had the Swiss Army symbol on it.

    Okay, I don't get it......what's the translation?
     
  15. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Perhaps this is meant to be like what I once read about Conan The Barbarian (the books, not the movies). When Conan was faced with a difficult situation, his response was to pull his sword and cut his way out...no subtlety at all. The bench was a solution, like a swiss army knife?
     
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  16. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    I think he was pointing out that MacGyver isn't a real person and Richard Dean Anderson would take a blowtorch to a coin if he thought it prudent... Or cut it in half to see if its real gold then think it was 14k
     
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  17. TJ1952

    TJ1952 Well-Known Member

    Those work for me.
     
  18. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Now what kid has not tried the tape process. :) The ones I had were mostly jeff nickels. :)
     
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