Why am I excited about this Large Cent?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Marshall, Aug 12, 2016.

  1. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    I do not have my reference book on hand to attribute the coin (assuming I was able to). However, I hope it turns out to be what you expect, probably an R-6 or better variety?
     
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  3. Copper56

    Copper56 Active Member

    I've gotta start paying better attention!
     
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  4. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    I thank you. My budget requires bargains.
     
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  5. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    Marshall, that is a nice S-105 you posted.
    Is that coin still an R-5+ ?
    CQR (latest edition 2011) has it at R-5-.
     
  6. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    It has fallen from High R6 in Penny Whimsy to R5+ in Breen's Encyclopedia. My old copy of Robinson's listed it at 6+. I'd check for an error in CQR for it to have fallen below 5+. The best current guess (IMHO) is about 3 dozen specimens.

    They would have to have found another dozen to get to R5 and another two dozen to fall to the top of R5-.
     
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  7. Marshall

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  8. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    I hope you are correct, my friend. It would really add to the value of my S-105
    which I found unattributed many years ago.
    IMG_9421_opt-2.jpg IMG_9431_opt.jpg
     
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  9. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    I have coin envy. That is a really nice one with chocolate surfaces.

    Additional rarity from the Heritage Archives:

    9/11/97 VG10/net VG8 R5 $1265
    1/13/05 G6 R5+ $517.50
    1/24/06 VG/net G5 R5+ $431.25
    2/15/08 PCGS F15/EAC F12, CC-3/4 R5- $6,325
    9/6/09 EF45/net VF25 CC-2 or t2 R5+ $9600 Holmes Collection
    4/28/11 NGC F12/EAC VG7 or VG8 CC-t6/t7 R5- $3737.50
    9/6/12 NGC G4/EAC G4 R5 $646.25
    9/26/13 PCGS Genuine/EAC VG10 R5- $2232.50
    1/10/14 NGC XF/EAC F12 CC-2 R5- $5287.50

    I'd place yours in the EAC VG10 to F12 range. The VG10 has similar to marginally less wear, but the condition of yours is superior. I don't know if that is a net grade or not. The higher grades are nets from higher grades with problem surfaces. This should put your S-105 between 4th and 6th in the CC.
     
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  10. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Congrats Marshall.
     
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  11. MKent

    MKent Well-Known Member

    I too am a padawan waiting patiently to learn from a master.
     
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  12. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    This is one which I got shortly after quitting collecting and disposing of about 200 Large Cents.

    Some things are difficult to let go of.

    1797 NC-5  Closeup-vert.jpg
    As you can see, a little damage doesn't deter me from my pursuits. In fact, it keeps it affordable.
     
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  13. David Setree Rare Coins

    David Setree Rare Coins Well-Known Member

    I put together a date set but never got into the varieties. I bet this one is a doozie.
     
  14. Moekeever

    Moekeever Well-Known Member

    I would have bid up on that one. Nice coin.
     
  15. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    Can you remind us which variety that is?
    I think I vaguely recall you posting this (NC ?) coin a few years ago.
     
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  16. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    I'll start off with why so many cents have holes in them. Back in the days around the War of Northern Aggression (Yes, I'm from the South), parents would send their boys off with a little hard earned money. But knowing they were subject to vices, the mothers would sew coins into the linings of their jackets. Nowadays, people will forget and lose jackets, But back then they were precious for keeping warm so the boys would keep them near and dear.

    Anyway this is one of the reasons you will find holed coins.
     
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  17. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    Yes. It's the 1797 NC-5.
     
  18. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    nice. I like large cents too. My earliest is a 1800 though. Breaking into the 1700s gets really expensive.
     
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  19. ExoMan

    ExoMan Well-Known Member

    The above large cent simply needed one hole to be sewn into clothing. Why do double the work and create two holes? Given that the two holes are distantly spaced, it's my guess that the above copper may have been transformed into a "whizzer" for some tyke. Tied with string, fastened or held at each end, the coin is rotated many times. Once wound tight, pulling on the ends of the string will cause the copper to make a whizzing sound as it speedily rotates .... I'm almost old enough to remember these things. I do remember the Philco!
     
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  20. Stevearino

    Stevearino Well-Known Member

    Trying to patiently wait until Monday, I remain your devoted pad-whateveritis,
    Steve
     
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  21. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    I'm stumped even looking at my Penny Whimsey (which I think should have been called Cent Whimsey, but that's a discussion for another day). I'd venture to guess that you've found one of the elusive unattributed non collectables and I'd be envious. Can't wait to hear the answer.
     
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