Janus:- Opinions please?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Topcat7, Aug 12, 2016.

  1. Topcat7

    Topcat7 Still Learning

    It has been suggested that before one buys one can put the coin to the members for their opinion so here goes.

    I am bidding on this 'Janus' but i know very little about them.
    It doesn't have the same look as other silver (Janus) coins that i have seen.
    Can anyone shed any light on what this coin might be worth (if anything) please?

    AE As, Q. Opimius, circa 169-158 BC
    Magical Snap - 2016.08.13 06.44 - 097.jpg
     
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  3. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Ebay or auction house? You don't have to disclose the exact location, obviously. I admit to being ignorant on these, but I am a little concerned with the pits all over the place. Could just be corrosion, but it could also be a sign of something foul.
     
  4. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Me too - ignorant, but the faces show no "art."
     
  5. Nicholas Molinari

    Nicholas Molinari Well-Known Member

    It's a decent example. I could see it going for $100 give or take $20. Maybe the symbols above the prow indicate it is a rare variety.
     
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  6. David@PCC

    David@PCC allcoinage.com

    It's common for those, but a size\weight can help determine value.
     
  7. red_spork

    red_spork Triumvir monetalis

    The coin is very worn, but totally fine. The pitting is just some corrosion and you can compare with others of the era with respect to style. No silver was struck during this period so it's not unusual that you wouldn't find any silver with a similarly-styled Janus, because it doesn't exist. As far as price, I'd try to pay around $70-$80 for this example. It's a very common type and a better example can be found for not much more with a little patience.

    Search ACSearch for Crawford 190/1 for more examples of the type
     
  8. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    It looks good to me just comparing it to others, but, I too, do not have much experience with these. From seeing these for sale all over the place, I would set the value at $65 plus.
     
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  9. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    Looks OK to me, Topcat
    a similar Janus from my collection.
    estimate $50-$75
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  10. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Looks fine to me as well and the $70 shipped estimate seems about right too.
     
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  11. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Here are a few of my Januform AE's for comparison.

    I feel yours looks fine. I agree: $100 +/- $20 is fair.

    RR Atili Saran AE As 148 BC Janus ROMA Prow S 399 Cr 214-2a O-R.jpg
    RR Atili Saran AE As 148 BC Janus ROMA Prow S 399 Cr 214-2a

    RR Anon AE As 157-155 BC sextantal Janus Prow S 712 Cr 197-1 O-R.jpg
    RR Anon AE As 211-206 BC sextantal Janus Prow Anchor Sear 628 Craw 50/3

    RR Anon AE As after 211 BC Janus I Prow Cr 56-2 Sear 627 O-R.jpg
    RR Anon AE As after 211 BCE Janus I Prow Cr 56-2 Sear 627

    RImp AE As Pompey 42-38 BC Janus Prow Magnus S 1394 Cr 479-1 O-R.jpg
    RImp AE As Pompey 42-38 BC Janus Prow Magnus S 1394 Cr 479-1
     
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  12. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    TC, I agree with everyone else. The coin looks right and frankly, it has more eye appeal than most I've seen! If it were to appear in a CNG auction (or other big auction house), it would surely get some action!
     
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  13. Topcat7

    Topcat7 Still Learning

    Thank-you, everyone.
    I am well pleased with your comments and I will offer accordingly.
    Hopefully I will be successful as I do not have any of these.
     
  14. red_spork

    red_spork Triumvir monetalis

    Al, your second coin is an earlier Cr. 50/3 anchor as with anchor to right of prow like this one: https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1102057
     
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  15. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Thank you Sir!

    I have no clue how my file pic was mis-attributed. My records agree with your Cr 50/3 attribution.
     
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  16. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    nothing to add...but good luck! keep us posted TC!
     
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  17. beef1020

    beef1020 Junior Member

    I think you got a lot of god advice on price, I'll add this sale record of the same variety:

    https://www.sixbid.com/browse.html?auction=2689&category=56692&lot=2266347

    One other thing to note. If you are just buying this as a type piece you can ignore, but when I buy Roman republics for their Crawford numbers, I really try to purchase coins with very clear attribution, in this case the letters OPEI. My thinking on a coin like this for my collection, is it's common enough that I would wait for an example with more of the OPEI clearly visible. This one isn't bad, but it's common enough that I would wait.
     
  18. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    While I always wanted an Aes Grave liberal as, I have so far settled for a 40.0g sextantal with nice faces and not much reverse
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    and the opposite pattern in 18.3g from a later period.
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    The last barely outweighs my anonymous semis at 18.1g.
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    All are Anonymous. I am totally confused by the weight differences shown on these later bronzes. Are they carefully controlled but constantly more reduced or is there just huge variations of coins issued at the same time? The way they are mixed in catalogs I have seen makes it hard to tell.
     
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