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  1. annacrigger

    annacrigger New Member

    What happened with the "trust"? Tia
     

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  3. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Nope, semi circular damage from counting wheel.
     
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  4. annacrigger

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  5. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Correct that is due to damage. But it is very interesting.
     
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  6. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    You are welcome. Now, why not do a little research and tell @paddyman98 and me what the two different things (filled die & wheel damage) look like on a coin.
     
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  7. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    Giving new people homework? Blah. haha
     
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  8. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    So, what is wrong with that?

    Chris
     
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  9. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Hey @jwitten

    What's wrong with a little education? If I had about eighteen hours with her and her boyfriend at our office, they both would know more about coins than you ever will.

    They wouldn't buy any heavily stained gold either!
    ;);):smuggrin:
     
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  10. MKent

    MKent Well-Known Member

    I think it's appropriate to give (Home Work) to new collectors. I doubt she finds it offensive if she truly is serious about learning. I have been collecting for several years and reading CT for almost as long, and I have without being asked or told done the same type of research. Good idea @Insider
     
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  11. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    There aren't too many of us who feel this way. Most of the time when I suggest something like this, I get hammered with spiteful comments. I can only assume that such remarks are made by people who find it much easier for someone to give them the answer.

    Chris
     
  12. MKent

    MKent Well-Known Member

    Nothing toward anyone on this post, but that is the society we live in today. They just want the answer, the prize, the trophy etc..
    When I was coming up if you asked what something meant you were told go look it up and there wasn't any Google, Bing or Ask. You got out the encyclopedia and looked it up. Or the dictionary and learned how to spell it nobody told you. Now days people just ask and expect an answer. I read a lot of your replies and I get it. I don't think it's rude to say look it up.
     
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  13. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    So @annacrigger I hope you agree and take a stab at my question. The damage should be EASY o_O, very easy to describe...just look at the coin and tell us what you see. I hope you have a hand lens to examine your coin.

    You'll may need to read about struck thru errors since you don't have one.
     
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  14. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    Wow, such a harmless comment stirred up some issues. I'm glad I had teachers who were happy to answer questions, no matter how silly or dumb they were, instead of just saying "look it up."
     
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  15. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Calm down there. I was waiting for you to post here again. I was going to write something like this to you as a JOKE :hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::

    @jwitten I just want you to get ready for a landslide business as I put this sign in our office waiting room.
    WANTED TO BUY
    STAINED GOLD
    ANY CONDITION
    TOP DOLLAR PAID
    contact jwitten

    BTW, my teachers wanted us to look up things as we should retain it better and they believed education had a lot to do with KNOWING WHERE to find the answers. For the life of me, I'll never understand why most collectors CANNOT put into words what they see on a coin. It is EASY! @annacrigger this has nothing to do with you or what you were asked to try!

    Example: I see a long "X" shape, dig-like mark into the surface of my Large cent. There is a different color (dark black?) at the lowest part inside of the mark. One side of the mark is higher than the other and it is raised over the normal surface, almost curved back toward the long dig. Hummm, sounds like someone cut an "X" into your coin and told you it was struck using a "cancelled die.":D :yawn:
     
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  16. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I agree with it being damage. Maybe a counting wheel caused it but there sure looks like a lot of metal is missing.
     
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  17. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    I don't wish to comment further until the OP does her homework (if she chooses), but those machines can dig out serious metal and since the legend (and any field) is near the rim, that's where we see it. I'll post a magnified photo soon.
     
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  18. tomfiggy

    tomfiggy Well-Known Member

    When I was newer on here I had a lot of wishful thinking about MY coins. Chris you said something that hurt my feelings but It was true. I took it personally because I was not impartial to the prognosis of my "special penny". I have learned a lot since then. It's easier to just look for errors than to study, and it's easier to see YOUR MD than my own. Lol
    Studying is what it takes to know what to look for, and what is junk. I don't have an excuse any more but I still get fooled. This forum is a great place to learn. I mainly look for doubled die's so the more I study all the varieties the better chances I'll recognize something when I see it.
     
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  19. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Unfortunately, it appears that "homework" has either scared off the OP or she is still studying. Although there is much better information on the Internet, this is as I understand the difference - quick and simple:

    Struck Thru: Something got between the die and the planchet. It is either still pushed "into" the finished coin or has just left an impression "into" the coin's surface. Struck thru's have a different surface inside them than the surface of the coin with borders that are "soft" and mostly blended into the coin.

    Counting Wheel Damage: As on the OP's coin, happened after the coin was made (PMD). This is characterized by a circular groove into the coin's surface near the rims. IF any relief design such as a letter is present, the damage may carve all or part of it out.

    NOTE: This is not the same as a "Counting Wheel Mark" which results when a coin gets stuck (and "locally" buffed) under the rubber wheel of the machine.
     
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  20. tomfiggy

    tomfiggy Well-Known Member

    When I was about 15 I found a 1955 ddo. I knew it must be worth something but had no way to find out. The library had no books on error coins. I think someone stole it, or I gave it away. There was no internet. Today there is such a wealth of information available.
     
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