Counterfeit Detection Seminar at January 2024 FUN Convention

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  1. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    I am scheduled to give a counterfeit detection seminar at the 2024 FUN show. It will be at 11:45 AM on Thursday, January 4.The emphasis will be on how to spot counterfeit coins in counterfeit slabs on-line. There will be handout so that you can use my tips on your computer, cell phone and iPad at home and at the shows.

    I hope to meet you there!
     
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  3. Insider

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    Where is it going to be? Will it be in the official FUN Program?
     
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  4. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Yes, it is an official seminar. It will be on Thursday at 11:45. I don't have the room number.
     
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  5. MIGuy

    MIGuy Well-Known Member

    Any chance there will be a recording available later for that those who can't attend but would like to learn?
     
  6. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    It shows to be in room N320E.
     
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  7. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    I believe another person recording the seminars now. FUN shows past years’ seminars on their sites. They will probably do that again.
     
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  8. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    Anyone attend and could share?
     
  9. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    I attended Bill's presentation and once the audio-visual issues were settled, it was a very nice overview of the counterfeit coin and slab problem. If you didn't know much about the topic, it was a fine introduction and if you already knew something about it, it reinforced the need to be vigilant.

    As will all Bill's presentations, it was well-researched, well-prepared and well-delivered.

    I believe a video was recorded.
     
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  10. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    The presentation was great. I have a much better understanding of what to look for.
     
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  11. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    I manned my table but would like to watch the video, if it's available.
     
  12. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Here is the handout I gave at the end of the presentation. Here are the important points:
    • Go to the certification verification pages at PCGS and NGC.
    • Enter the serial number on the slab.
    • If the response comes back "invalid serial number," there is probably a problem. There is an outside chance that the slab label has a mechanical error, but that is very unusual.
    • If you get a response PCGS and NGC verification responses will have pictures of the coin or the slab for newer slabs.
    • If there are no pictures, PCGS might have one or more citations where the item has been sold in a major auction. The auction site will have pictures.
    • If the item in the slab does not match the picture, it is probably a counterfeit.
    • If you get no pictures or auction responses, you can got to PCGS Coin Facts to compare the item with pictures of genuine coins. This is not as good as getting a pictures of the actual coin in the slab.
    • Jack D. Young has posted many pictures of counterfeits with tips on how to spot them under his name in the “CoinWeek” site. You may got there to sharper your eye for spotting counterfeits.
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