geekpryde's "Box of 100" CAC Type Set

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  1. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    Okay, here are the long promised new slab photos from coins I re-slabbed years ago but never took new photos.

    BEFORE and AFTER. These slab shots are intended to show the full shot, not a close up of the coin. So priority here is less about showing the coin as a perfect closeup, and more just a balance photo showing both the coin and its frame.

    [OLD SLAB]

    1857 1C CENT - FLYING EAGLE NGC XF45 2115737-003 CAC Obv Slab.jpg

    Box Position (7): 1857 Cent Flying Eagle NGC XF45 CAC [RESHOOT]

    1857 1C CENT - FLYING EAGLE NGC XF45 2115737-003 CAC Obv Slab New 2.jpg

    1857 1C CENT - FLYING EAGLE NGC XF45 2115737-003 CAC Rev Slab New 2.jpg

    I love Obverse of this coin, my problem is the Reverse. Every time I see photos of this coin I get annoyed, as the hits/marks under the "CENT" looks almost intentional to me, and look like scratches. It's not ideal when something bugs you about your own coin in a box of 100. :sour:

    The really sad part is I sold I coin that was rejected by CAC that I liked better, to get this coin. Coin photos make it look worse in hand due to light catching the marks. The sellers photos sort of hid (not intentionally) the areas that bugs me, but honestly those old shots LOOKS more like then coin does in hand. Without direct light hitting the coin surface, you don't really see the problem.

    So now I am wondering if I should upgrade this Box Spot yet again... Even though the problem is exclusively bugs me in the pics but not when looking at the coin in hand. (first world problems) I would say time will heal the wounds, but really, those scratch-like marks have been annoying me since 2014.


    Seller photos from like a decade ago.

    1857 1C Flying Eagle XF45 CAC Seller.jpg


    I wonder if this could even get into a CACG holder now:
     
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  3. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    Honestly the original slab photo looks great. Shows the slab and coin equally good. Not sure why I even had this one re-slabbed, I think there were chips & cracks in the case on the reverse.

    The reality of this coin in-hand is somewhere in the middle of the Before & After shots. Coin looks too flat in the original slab, and too shiny in the new shots.

    This is a great example of how one set of photos cannot show a coins full picture.


    1858 5C HALF DIME - SEATED LIBERTY, STARS OBVERSE NGC AU58 1872761-005 CAC Obv Slab.jpg

    1858 5C HALF DIME - SEATED LIBERTY, STARS OBVERSE NGC AU58 1872761-005 CAC Rev Slab.jpg

    Box Position (20): 1858 Half Dime Seated Liberty, Stars Obverse NGC AU58 CAC [RESHOOT]

    1858 HALF DIME SEATED LIBERTY, STARS OBVERSE NGC AU58 1872761-005 CAC Obv Slab New Macro.jpg
    1858 HALF DIME SEATED LIBERTY, STARS OBVERSE NGC AU58 1872761-005 CAC Rev Slab New Macro.jpg
     
    Last edited: Jan 1, 2024
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  4. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    @geekpryde if it is something that bothers you on the coin, I would consider upgrading. Those lines under cent, while not terrible, do look a bit bothersome to me (at least from only seeing it in a photo). Plus, this isn't a super expensive or a hard to find coin, so I would focus on finding one you like better.
     
  5. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    1883 5C FIVE-CENT PIECE - LIBERTY HEAD, NO CENTS NGC MS65 2201807-018 CAC Obv Slab.jpg

    1883 5C FIVE-CENT PIECE - LIBERTY HEAD, NO CENTS NGC MS65 2201807-018 CAC Rev Slab.jpg



    Box Position (24): 1883 Five Cent Piece - Liberty Head, No Cents NGC MS65 CAC [RESHOOT]

    Box Position (24)-  1883 Five Cent Piece - Liberty Head, No Cents NGC MS65 CAC Obv Slab New.jpg

    Box Position (24)-  1883 Five Cent Piece - Liberty Head, No Cents NGC MS65 CAC Rev Slab New.jpg
     
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  6. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    The SBA is one of those anomaly coins for me. In theory, I hate the design of this coin. (not my specific coin, ALL SBAs)

    However, I am confronted by the fact that I actually really like these coins in-hand and in high MS.

    Again, please keep in mind these new photos may appear to be a step backwards in how the coin itself is presented. My goal is for slab shots, so I can get accurate photos of what the coin is actually housed in.

    Old Slab:

    1979 S $1 DOLLAR - ANTHONY NGC MS67 3016731-009 Obv Slab.jpg

    1979 S $1 DOLLAR - ANTHONY NGC MS67 3016731-009 Rev Slab.jpg

    Box Position (73): 1979-S Dollar Anthony NGC MS67 [RESHOOT]

    New Slab Shot:
    1979 S $1 DOLLAR - ANTHONY NGC MS67 3016731-009 Obv Slab New Macro.jpg
    1979 S $1 DOLLAR - ANTHONY NGC MS67 3016731-009 Rev Slab New Macro.jpg
     
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  7. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    This coin was re-slabbed purely to get the DDO added to the label.

    I was able to see if even in the original seller photos, and then checked with my macro lens to confirm.

    1854-G$1-Type-2_old.jpg


    Here is something I made up when I first got the coin, and before It was designated as such by the TPG.

    1854-G$1-Type-2.jpg


    Box Position (78): 1854 Gold Dollar Type 2 DDO FS-101 NGC AU55 CAC
    [RESHOOT]

    1854 $G$1 GOLD DOLLAR - TYPE 2 DDO FS-101 NGC AU55 3655716-005 CAC Obv Slab New Macro.jpg

    1854 $G$1 GOLD DOLLAR - TYPE 2 DDO FS-101 NGC AU55 3655716-005 CAC Rev Slab New Macro.jpg
     
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  8. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    This slab was beat to heck. I could hide it pretty well with just a close up shot, but I got it housed and also got a very minor variety S/S added the holder (that probably no one cares about.) :p I dont think PCGS even lists its as a variety.

    If I were doing it again, I probably would NOT even want the variety listed on the holder.


    1886 S G$5 HALF EAGLE - CORONET, MOTTO NGC MS62 3043534-013 CAC Obv Slab.jpg


    1886 S G$5 HALF EAGLE - CORONET, MOTTO NGC MS62 3043534-013 CAC Rev Slab.jpg

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    Box Position (81): 1886-S/S Half Eagle Coronet, Motto VP-001 NGC MS62 CAC [RESHOOT]

    1886-S-S Half Eagle Coronet, Motto VP-001 NGC MS62 CAC Obv Slab New Macro.jpg

    1886-S-S Half Eagle Coronet, Motto VP-001 NGC MS62 CAC Rev Slab New Macro.jpg


    Not my coin, but shows the variety:

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  9. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    :snaphappy:

    I decided to re-re-shoot that coin. Driving me nuts :vomit: how the coin photos made that areas 100x worse than you can see even holding the coin right up to your face.

    So I changed lenses (to what I should have been using the whole time), and here is the result. These photos well represent the coin.

    Now I am happy with the pics AND the coin.

    Funny thing about this hobby for me is that I spend more time looking at the photos of a coin, than the actual coin itself, as they are often locked away for long periods of time. So if the photos are bad, then its a major issue for me and make we feel crazy :wacky:.

    1857 1C CENT - FLYING EAGLE NGC XF45 2115737-003 CAC Obv Slab New Macro.jpg

    1857 1C CENT - FLYING EAGLE NGC XF45 2115737-003 CAC Rev Slab New Macro.jpg


    :singing:
     
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  10. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    It looks much better there. The most important thing is that you are happy with both the photo and coin. :)
     
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  11. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    Don't mind me while I think aloud... I will help me remember my collecting goals in the coming year. Doubt this will be on any interest to anyone, but I at least now I can Google my goals, increase my old brain forgets... :nurse:

    (1) Cull a few coins I don't love anymore, namely:
    • my 1943/2 Jefferson Nickel (already replaced)
    • my Barber dime Type. (Too dark, sort of ugly except in the exact right lighting)
    (2) Send off a PCGS submission (I finally joined recently) to get ~4 coins re-slabbed and photographed by TrueView.

    (3) Send off a CAC stickering (legacy) submission. I only have 1 coin for that right now.

    (4) Find a worthy Example coin for a few previously listed Types. I think I will try and purchase ~10 coins in 2024.

    (5) Up my coin storage game. I will have a post here in the coming weeks about how I store my Box of 100 coins. But I need to expand by long term storage for the safe deposit box now that I am past 75 coins. Easy problem to fix.

    (6) Update my coin website to list many newly purchased coins and remove coins no longer in my Type set.

    (7) attend a Coin show outside of Maine. Maine shows are pretty tiny and a little sad...

    (8) Stay focused on my Type set goals. I have already accidently purchased two coins I shouldn't have, as they don't have a home in my Box of 100. I know I am not the only one that accidently wins coins. :oops:

    (9) Add descriptions of each of my coins to this Thread, so fellow members can see the differences between similar looking coins in my Type set (what makes them their own "type"), and what I like about each coin, etc. Basically I few sentences about each coin in my Box-of-100.


    p.s.

    Regarding why I don't have a Morgan dollar in the Type set, even though I have shared many of them over the years.

    When I took a break (quit?) the hobby for ~10 years, I sold off my last remaining Morgan around 2014. In retrospect, I slightly regret that I did that, but also I wanted a *WOW* Morgan and my Type coin was just "nice". I have handled many Morgans, especially in old NGG fatty holders. I liked many of them. But one of the only Morgans I ever held & photographed that made we say WOW is a coin owned by @Mainebill. Here is a photo I took of that coin:

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    That coin and similar coins of its quality, are way out of my price league. :greedy: But I am making it a goal for 2024 to find an affordable coin I can wowed by for my Type set.
     
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  12. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    I still have that one. Though I sold a lot of my toned Morgan’s. I’ve been more or less on hiatus from collecting since 2018. I may get back into it again at some point and may start dealing again as well. At the time that wasn’t a super expensive coin. I think under $800. In 66 *cac. Though I made the cac myself
     
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  13. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    @geekpryde depending on what you consider to be wow worthy, there are plenty of Morgan options in the under $1k realm (would have to go over to get into the true "monster" range).

    Here are some examples:

    $850-$900 range:

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    $550-$600 range:
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    $475-$500 range:

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    $125-$150 range:
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    ...and many more if you search the typical auction houses (eBay, GC, etc).
     
  14. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    I'm on the hunt weekly for my special Morgan example. Thanks for the suggestions. I'll be sure to update this thread when the time comes.
     
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  15. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    New Additions for January 2024

    Box Position (86): 2000-P Dollar Sacagawea PCGS MS67 [toned, actually looks really nice in hand, these photos are poor representation] 2000-P Sacagawea Dollar PCGS MS-67 73071608 Obv Slab Seller.jpg

    2000-P Sacagawea Dollar PCGS MS-67 73071608 Rev Slab Seller.jpg


    Box Position (87): 2015 Bullion Tenth-Ounce Gold American Eagle PCGS MS70 [Label looks like crap in photos, but actually looks good in hand]
    2015 $5 Tenth-Ounce Gold American Eagle PCGS MS70 31532235 (Gold Foil Label) Obv Slab GC.jpg

    2015 $5 Tenth-Ounce Gold American Eagle PCGS MS70 31532235 (Gold Foil Label) Revc Slab GC.jpg

    Box Position (88): 1837 Half Dollars Capped Bust, Reeded Edge "50 Cents" PCGS XF45
    1837 50C HALF DOLLARS - CAPPED BUST, REEDED EDGE PCGS XF45 46961989 GreatPhoto.jpg
     
    Last edited: Jan 26, 2024
  16. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    Couple of New Additions.

    Box Position (34): 1898 Dime Barber Liberty Head PCGS MS64 CAC
    Upgraded a coin I didn't really Like to this. Obv is only so-so toning, but I really like the Reverse Toning, but you don't really see it in these images.

    1898 10C DIMES - BARBER LIBERTY HEAD PCGS MS64 84255442 CAC GC Obv Slab.jpg
    1898 10C DIMES - BARBER LIBERTY HEAD PCGS MS64 84255442 CAC GC Rev Slab.jpg


    Box Position (90): 1965 Quarter Dollar Washington Clad PCGS MS66
    A very cheap ~$20 Example of a CLAD Washington, with what I thought was nice subtle toning and a pleasing overall look.

    1965 25C QUARTER DOLLARS - WASHINGTON CLAD PCGS MS66 30935637 GC Great Photo.jpg


    Box Position (91): 1873 Quarter Dollar Seated Liberty, Motto Arrows PCGS VF25 (will send to CAC)
    1873 25C QUARTER DOLLARS - SEATED LIBERTY ARROWS PCGS VF25 48137608 GC Great Photo.jpg


    Box Position (92): 1807 Quarter Dollars Draped Bust PCGS FR2 CAC

    A pleasing looking low grade coin.
    1807 25C QUARTER DOLLARS - DRAPED BUST PCGS FR2 12243078 CAC Obv Slab.jpg


    Box Position (93): 1976-D Half Dollars Kennedy Bicentennial, Clad PCGS MS66

    I have been hunting for a CLAD Bicentennial Kennedy in MS67, but the always go for money money than I want to spend. I finally found an MS66 example with pleasing toning.
    1976 D 50C HALF DOLLARS - KENNEDY PCGS MS66 46901396 GC Great Photo.jpg


    Box Position (74): 1976-S Dollar Eisenhower Bicentennial Silver PCGS MS68

    Just a basic nice Type coin in a high grade for the Silver version of the coin. (will send to CAC)
    1976-S Eisenhower Dollar Silver PCGS MS-68 Obv Slab Great Photo 34792857.jpg

    1837 5C HALF DIME - SEATED LIBERTY, NO STARS LARGE DATE PCGS VF30

    This replaces a coin I loved (in every way except one), purchased recently, except that is has a major flaw that I totally overlooked when I purchased it, and drives me nuts and I need to sell it before I have a breakdown. So now I have this coin, that I am not totally in love with, but minus the Rim Hit that was causing me emotional problems.
    1837 5C HALF DIMES - SEATED LIBERTY NO STARS LARGE DATE PCGS VF30 48137615 GC Great Photo.jpg
     
    Last edited: Apr 22, 2024
  17. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Nice additions!
     
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  18. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Though “clad quarter” is synonymous with “boring” in my book, that is a really super sweet example that I totally would have spent the money on. (And not just because it’s from my birthyear.)

    I misunderstood your commentary about the 1837 half dime, and was looking for a rim hit on the newer addition. Which looks fine. Crusty and original. I like the NS Seated stuff. Don’t have any in my own Box of 100, presently.
     
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  19. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Re. your new year’s comment:
    This is exactly my situation. I’ve actually sold some coins because I didn’t like the way they looked in photos!

    And there are six or eight in my current Box of 100 that I’m keeping, which are nice coins, but which I’m still unsatisfied with the photography on.

    (One case in point…)
     
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  20. russell1256

    russell1256 Well-Known Member

    What are you storing them in? I am putting together a PCGS Type Set, have 54 of 96 coins That could change as I refine the types), trying for all AU and higher.
     
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  21. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator


    (Edit: oops, I suppose that question might’ve been directed at our thread author, but I’ll answer it, too.)


    When my “Box of 100” is inside my safe deposit box, I use cardboard stock boxes like this, rather than the plastic PCGS/NGC boxes. (Because the cardboard ones have no dividers/slots, they'll hold a few more coins inside each box.)

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    When I'm on the go, I have an aluminum Lighthouse briefcase that holds 100 slabs.

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    I used to have several Lighthouse slab albums (quite fancy and handsome), and they displayed the coins nicely, but they just proved a bit too cumbersome to schlep around, so I sold them and now just go with the briefcase.
     
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