1983 D US mint copper plating error

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by trussxx1, Nov 5, 2023.

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What's you opinion?

  1. Mint Error

    18.2%
  2. Altered

    81.8%
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  1. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    If the coin is bent it didn’t happen at the mint so how and where did it get bent? Outside of the mint is where it was bent and how doesn’t matter as the coin is damaged. It’s that simple.
     
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  3. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    Coins are minted not printed,it's just a cent.Stay off of Facebook marketplace for coins, full of nonsense.
     
  4. Lon Chaney

    Lon Chaney Well-Known Member

    Can we have your NGC cert number?
     
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  5. l.cutler

    l.cutler Member

    Oh boy, just keep resubmitting to PCGS and NGC, be sure to request the mint error attribution.
     
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  6. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    You actually sent that coin in for a grade?
     
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  7. trussxx1

    trussxx1 New Member

    Did you not read NGC's GLOSSARY OF NUMISMATIC TERMS https://www.ngccoin.com/news/article/2202/Glossary/ Bent is the term NGC used to describe the coin in question. They could have but did not use the term damaged. Maybe I'm a stickler for detail/accuracy/efficiency. FACT RULE! Best regards
     
  8. robec

    robec Junior Member

  9. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I didn't need to read it, I lived it. I hope you take the time to learn and not argue. @robec posted the truth just above this post. He also lived it. NGC put Bent on the label to narrow down the reason for the details grade, for you. At one time they would have just returned the coin to you in a body bag with a note that said Damaged. Wish you the best.
     
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  10. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Sorry, If normal minting caused it to be bent, I would understand your stand, and there have been a few coins where the functioning dies have been formed purposely with a bent or curve ( Baseball coins) with a semi-spherical shape, but that was on purpose. Such on a normal coin group intended to be flat is an alteration or damage, whether NCG says it or not. Gosh it might get stuck in a gumball machine and the mint get sued. Well if you ever have a fender-bender, be sure to thank the other driver for the nice bend. As said above, damaged is a good word. Jim
     
  11. trussxx1

    trussxx1 New Member

    I appreciated and find interested in the opinions of everyone who responded to my post. That I differ in opinion it is based on my close examination of the coin, my experience and the conversation I had with NGC customer service. My response is not to be argumentative.
     
  12. MIKELOCK34

    MIKELOCK34 Well-Known Member

    For a conversation to have validity, fact must supersede opinion.
     
  13. trussxx1

    trussxx1 New Member

    1983 D missing plating saga! (LOL). I called NGC a second time and spoke with Erica about the (AU 58 Bent) description they assigned to the coin. Specifically asking their opinion on the term BENT. After conferring with her grading team, Erica said. "They determined the coin is bent to a small degree. If the coin was damaged NGC would have assigned the term damaged. the coin is not damaged. Erica said, I could resubmit the coin for a fee and ask if they would comment on the missing plating with no guarantee NGC would change their opinion." I plan to send it back. Thanks to all who showed a interest in this post. Best regards
    Tony
     
  14. Lon Chaney

    Lon Chaney Well-Known Member

    You still haven't posted the cert # so we can look it up on the registry. If you got your grades back, you should have the cert #s, even if the coins aren't in your possession.
     
  15. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I don't believe Erica said that. Those are your words, not hers.
    I believe she said this part.
     
  16. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I'll ask NGC over on their site if a bent coin is not damage and report what they say. If I don't get an answer, I will be at their table in January at the FUN show. If I'm wrong I will post it.
     
  17. robec

    robec Junior Member

    What part of Mechanical Damage did you not understand? In their article on their website one of the descriptions of the damage is bent. It couldn’t be clearer than that.
     
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  18. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I want to see the Cert# as well. Let's see it @trussxx1
     
  19. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Would be interesting to hear what Insider would say about the terms.

    @Insider
     
  20. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I just sent this to Ask NGC and will report what they have to say.

    "Does NGC consider a bent coin to be damaged. I believe the label may call the coin Bent but they don't feel the need to call it damaged as well and I agree that there is no need. Please correct me if I'm wrong."
     
  21. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    The terms are in the description of words in the link provide by the OP. The NGC descriptions don’t state Damaged but the description does indicate that. NGC doesn’t like yo use the word damage as y to o them it’s a catch all word.
     
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