Just what we need … another stickering service

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by calcol, Nov 10, 2023.

  1. calcol

    calcol Supporter! Supporter

    David Hall has teamed with Stack’s Bowers to create a stickering service similar to CAC. David Hall is a co-founder and ex-CEO of PCGS. There will be a Collectible Market Qualified (CMQ) sticker comparable to the CAC green sticker, and Collectible Market Qualified Exceptional (CMQ-X) sticker comparable to the CAC gold sticker. See the link below for more info. A picture of a slab with both CAC and CMQ stickers is below. Doubt this service will compete that well with CAC. Personally, I wish all stickers would fall off all slabs that have them.

    Cal

    Link: https://stacksbowers.com/sbpressreleases/introducing-collectible-market-qualified/

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  3. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    At times like this, I almost wish we had an "LOL" button separate from the "Like" button.

    Maybe we should just start making slabs where the label part is as tall as or taller than the coin part, with the aim of collecting signatures or stickers from everybody who thinks they're anybody in numismatics, short-snorter style.
     
  4. Dynoking

    Dynoking Well-Known Member

    So now we add $100+ in grading fees to the cost of the coin?
    I say spend that money on a good grading class and return to the days of 2x2’s.
     
  5. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    One more sticker and you won’t be able to see the coin.
     
  6. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

    If the slab doesn't have a MOOSE sticker on it, well it's not worth owning 1922 D dw moose.jpg
     
  7. rte

    rte Well-Known Member

    What's the saying?
    A fool and something build it and something.
     
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  8. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    The sticker craze is the reason why I scaled back my U.S. coin purchases. If I like the coin for the price, I buy it. If I don’t, I pass. If it has a sticker, that’s okay, but the sticker is not the determining factor for me.

    If people have followed CAC from the beginning, they would know some of the politics that has been involved in it. I have read about and seen coins that CAC bought off the market so that they could take the sticker off because it never should have been there in the first place. How does that happen if CAC is “perfect?” CAC does not sticker colonial coins any more because they once approved a piece that turned out to be a counterfeit in a slab.

    Some dealers complained when they didn’t get the sticker. Did they quietly get one later because they are CAC market makers? Who knows?

    This latest move, I believe, is an effort for Stacks to make up some ground on Heritage. Maybe a Heritage sticker is in our future.
     
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  9. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Slabs have their place because of the counterfeit problem, but too many stickers is undesirable. Pretty soon you won’t be able to read the grade because a sticker is covering it.

    The coin above is the “mall stars rev” variety.
     
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  10. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    I'm glad I never got into that "mine is better than yours" trap.
     
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  11. QuintupleSovereign

    QuintupleSovereign Well-Known Member

    At this point, I think that most of us can agree that the primary value of a TPG is in the authentication service, especially where high value items are concerned. As for the numerical grades, gradeflation has made distinctions between grades virtually meaningless. Buy the coin, not the holder, unless the holder is used to verify authenticity only.
     
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  12. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    Here is one done by a dealer that deems the coin white.
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  13. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Wonder if the sticker will last longer than the white surface?

    If I wanted to trash the dealer's reputation and didn't mind trashing a coin, I could probably turn that coin black in its slab in a few hours.
     
  14. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    Piggy-backing on your comment, I think I could get wealthy selling rolls of LOL stickers that potential customers can quietly apply to holders when they find the assigned grade disagreeable.
     
  15. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Just create a new sticker that covers the entire original label. You can not only change the grade, you can make it appear from anyone’s collection.
     
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  16. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Now, take that idea a little further, and imagine a sticker large enough to cover the coin...
     
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  17. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    There’s always a sticker to certify another sticker.
     
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  18. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I'm gonna start selling slab boxes with extra space between the slabs to accommodate the thickness of multiple layers of stickers.
     
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  19. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Novel idea. Lol
     
  20. imrich

    imrich Supporter! Supporter

    I love it, as I have slabbed Gold coins from VG to PR70 with a 3/4" square label stating $BUYBACK, and a figure which is my purchase price plus 10%, for which the coin can be purchased.

    It is also the repurchase price.

    New collectors love receiving a photo of several slabs from which they can make a purchase selection in privacy, knowing the specific cost to acquire, a condition generally unavailable otherwise!

    I generally acquire desirable coins for the average collector, based on condition, type, and cost, that increase value relative to average coin value conditions.

    The price shown will usually be less than commercial offerings.

    "Collecting" can be a fun hobby!

    JMHO
     
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  21. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    With all the talk about how great CAC is, I have not seen it do much of anything about the gradeflation problem. They have pretty much gone along with it.
     
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