Hello group, I am asking for help and possibly a valuation of this coin. This appears to be Antioch VIII Grypos, but I can't find the exact variety (i have checked in Seleucid Coins Online). Does anyone have a catalog of Seleucid coins? I will be grateful for your help! Robert
This coin is SC 2312 Antiochos VIII Epiphanes (Grypos), 109-96 BC. Minted in Antioch. One recently went unsold with an opening bid of 10 Euro. I think only a specialized collector would pay more for this coin, otherwise I would value it at $20 to $40.
Yes thank you. I've seen this coin too, but it doesn't really fit SC 2312. Please look at the bottom of cornucopia. Only on my coin and on the one from acsearch I saw such things. Does it look like single cornucopia wrapped in some kind of ribbon? and sc 2412 has filleted double cornucopia http://numismatics.org/sco/id/sc.1.2312 I think it single cornucopia with laureat pilea, as similar on this coin: https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=351159
For more examples of the "filleted double cornucopia," also see how it's represented on the various reverse dies used on SC 2313. I'm not very knowledgeable about Seleukid bronze coins, but I'm having trouble seeing anything too unusual.
Thank you Curtis! You are right it can be double cornucopia, and these reverses are similar to the reverse of my coin, but the obverse does not match. On mine, Antioch is in corona radiata. Robert
It is a double cornucopia overlapping on the bottom giving the illusion it is a single. You have to look at the top to see both, not the bottom. Here is a clear example of the illusion you are seeing from Demetrius Soter.
Yes, you are right, I have already seen it clearly. Even the fillet on this coin is arranged in the same way as mine. In fact, the only thing that distinguishes my coin from the SC 2312, you mentioned, is the way the band is arranged, which is the same as on the SC 2313.
I discovered that George MacDonald in the Catalogue of Greek Coins in the Hunterian Collection University of Glasgow, Vol. III, distinguishes between my coin and SC 2312 (awerses with radiate busts) plate LXIX, coins 23 and 24. Is there a some new catalog of Seleucid coinage? Maybe someone from the board has it?
Greetings @Robichari The #23 coin and the #24 coin from the plate you included are simply 2 different examples of the same coin type. They were struck from different dies, but are the same type. Each different die has a variety of differences (some very slight; some not so slight). MacDonald was not indicating they were different types. BTW: The MacDonald Volume III contains scholarship that is about 120 years old. The "SC" reference is top-notch current scholarship. The variance you are noting (orange) in the tail end of the cornucopia is not consequential to the determination of the type. Your coin is indeed the type which is now most commonly referred to as "SC 2312". Hope this helps to clarify!
Thank you very much! Very clear and sensible explanation. I think it confused me that the coins on the website: http://numismatics.org/sco/id/sc.1.2312 only include coins from other dies. Greetings, Robert
