Ptolemy IV Philopater

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  1. old49er

    old49er Well-Known Member

    Ptolemyiv philipater obv.jpg ptolemy obv.jpg ptolemy rev.jpg Ptoemyinfo.jpg Hi all, guess I'm another ancient addict now? It seems to be like lays potato chips alright... Here's a great coin with a great history. I can't believe how large this coin is. I love picking it up, real hefty and awesome I think. Thanks JA . Talk about hair. wow...
     
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  3. old49er

    old49er Well-Known Member

    Spelled the title wrong, can't edit it now... Sorry :banghead:
     
  4. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    You're welcome! Don't break your teeth on that potato chip - around these parts we call them hockey pucks or pond skippers.

    At the top right of the thread, click on "Thread Tools" and you should be able to edit the title.
     
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  5. old49er

    old49er Well-Known Member

    Thanks
     
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  6. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    Very nice coin.
     
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  7. Ajax

    Ajax Well-Known Member

    Nice coin man. I just picked up one of these as well theyre massive
     
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  8. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    @old49er this is a beautiful coin to feed your addition. BTW, 1949 was a mighty good year IMHO.
     
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  9. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Here are mine:

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    Ptolemy IV, BC 246-222
    AE41, 38.6mm; 12h
    Obv.: Bust of Zeus-Ammon right
    Rev.: ΠΤΟΛΣΜΑΙΟΥ ΒΑΣΙΛΣΩΣ; eagle standing left on thunderbolt, cornucopia tied with fillet before, ΔI between legs

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    Ptolemy IV, BC 225 - 201
    AE, 32.8g, 33mm; 12h; Alexandria mint
    Obv.: Head of Zeus-Amon right wearing taenia
    Rev.: ΠΤΟΛΕΜΛΙΟΥ ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ; eagle standing left on thunderbolt, ΛI between legs, filleted cornucopiae in left field
     
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  10. icerain

    icerain Mastir spellyr

    Thats a huge piece of chocolate cookie. Ptolemy coins are always nice and heavy, though they can be worn. The OP's coin looks very nicely detailed, here is one I have.

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    Ptolemaic Kingdom – Ptolemy VI, Philometer I (Egypt, Alexandria mint)
    170 - 163 B.C
    AE 29.5 / 24.4 grams, Drachm
    O: Diademed and horned head of Zeus-Ammon right
    R: ΠΤΟΛΣΜΑΙΟΥ ΒΑΣΙΛΣΩΣ Two eagles standing left side-by-side on thunderbolt, cornucopia facing left
    Reference : Svoronos 1424, SNG Cop 305-30
     
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  11. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Ptolemy IV.jpg
    PTOLEMY IV AE36
    OBVERSE: Diademed head of Zeus Ammon right
    REVERSE: PTOLEMIAOU BASILEWS, eagle standing left on thunderbolt, looking back at cornucopia under right wing
    Struck at Egypt 221-205 BC
    46.4g, 36mm
    SNG Cop 221
     
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  12. icerain

    icerain Mastir spellyr

    btw. Just noticed the ex. Red Spork on the label lol. Wondering if we should all be putting that on our labels in case we decide to sell or trade some of them.
     
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  13. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Yes, all provenance is important. It doesn't matter if the provenance is "Ex. From the collection of a women's undergarment salesman (2010)", it is still provenance tracing the coin to an owner and/or year and adds to the appeal of the coin.
     
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  14. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    If I buy coins from forum members or take them on commission, I always include that in the provenance. Not that it's terribly important, but we're a friendly group, and it's kind of fun to know who your coin comes from.
     
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  15. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    49er that's awesome. I don't have one, but your right they're addictive. Three months ago I wouldn't think about owning an ancient now I'm up to around d 20 or so. I think was just a couple of months ago I was swapping talk with you on the world coin forum.
     
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  16. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    http://ptolemybronze.com/ptolemy_series.html
    I'm no specialist in these for sure but when I want to look one up, I o the the link above. All it adds is that the sigma between the legs is sigma epsilon.

    I do not have a Ptolemy IV but will post a Ptolemy III you have all seen before. I got it in 1987 from the first Frank Robinson sale I bid in.
    g02530fd0016.jpg
    36mm - 38.2gm
    Hemidrachm
    Sv965 - XP
     
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  17. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Ptolemy IV's...

    Egypt Ptolemy IV 221-205 BC AE 33mm 35g HemiDrachm Zeus-Ammon Eagle Tbolt O-R.jpg
    Egypt Ptolemy IV 221-205 BC AE 33mm 35g HemiDrachm Zeus-Ammon Eagle Tbolt

    Egypt Ptolemy IV 221-205 BC AE 37mm 42g Drachm Zeus-Ammon Eagle Tbolt SV 974 O-R.jpg
    Egypt Ptolemy IV 221-205 BC AE 37mm 42g Drachm Zeus-Ammon Eagle Tbolt SV 974

    And my biggest Pt-IV...
    Egypt Ptolemy IV 221-205 BC AE Tet 40mm 7-2 thick 69-5g Zeus Ammon Eagle O-R.jpg
    Egypt Ptolemy IV 221-205 BC AE Tet 40mm 7.2mm thick 69.5g Zeus Ammon Eagle
     
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  18. icerain

    icerain Mastir spellyr

    Yeah I think it would pretty neat to own a coin that came from TIF, AncientJoe... and such.
     
  19. old49er

    old49er Well-Known Member

    Great coins all, Thanks for sharing !I really love the one I have. As theres a hidden alignment puncture on obverse? the reverse has more? these must have been used for alignment before the hammer?
     
  20. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Well, you can own an Ex. Sallent if you want.
     
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  21. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    We refer to them as dimples. The flans were lathe-machined. See this site for more information. Be sure to click through all the pages for a very educational read.
     
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