Need help to ID gold coin from Netherlands

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Mark Ducati, Jun 24, 2007.

  1. Mark Ducati

    Mark Ducati Junior Member

    Hi All, I'm new to this forum....


    I just got a gold coin from my grandmother... need help finding out its value.

    Its a gold coin from the netherlands (holland).

    Very good Condition, but not mint, not encased in a plastic sheath.

    Incription on front facing circumference:

    [shield] JULIANA EN BERNHARD [shield] KONIGAN EN PRINS DER NEDERLANDADEN

    Front face has a picture of an old lady princess in the foreground, with the old prince behind her (he's wearing glasses)

    The front face also has 3 precious stones inlaid.... a red ruby, white diamond, and blue saphire.

    The back facing has a picture of a horse drawn carriage, something like Cinderella rode in... looks to be a team of 7-8 horses... inscription around the circumference read:

    1970 (on the bottom 6 oclock position, then going to 5 oclock counter clockwise) VOLLENHOVEN MR EVAN MARGRIET PRINSES CLAUS PRINS BEATRIX PRINSES PRINSESDAG

    It appears to be solid gold, but I dont know if its gold plated silver or not... its heavy as hell, I'm guessing solid gold. No reeding on the edge of the coin, just a number "172", I'm guessing #172 out of so many commerative coins?

    I've tried to look on the net for gold coins from the netherlands, but cant find any info on this particular coin... you'd think the 3 precious stones would be an easy match?

    Can any of you help me with this coin?

    #1, is it solid gold?

    #2, what's it value?
     
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  3. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    Greetings and welcome to the forum. Can you post a picture, it would help with an accurate attribution.
     
  4. Mark Ducati

    Mark Ducati Junior Member

    Here's a couple pics of the coin....

    I just started collecting gold/silver coins of value for my children... my son is 3, and my daughter is 4 months.

    I wanted neat, valuable coins that they could collect from the "tooth fairy", so I thought I'd better start buying now as expensive as some of these coins are.
     

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  5. Mark Ducati

    Mark Ducati Junior Member

    BTW, this forum was highly recommened by a friend of mine... "Ezra Coli".

    I've searched Google, Yahoo, Lycos, all kinds of searches for gold coins from the Netherlands.... I think the problem is that this isnt a real "monetary" coin, but rather a "commemorative" coin.

    Even so, I'd just like to know if its solid gold, and perhaps what its value might be?
     
  6. Aidan Work

    Aidan Work New Member

    Mark,this is a commemorative medal,not a coin.It was struck at the Royal Dutch Mint in Utrecht though.As to its fineness,I haven't a clue.

    Welcome aboard,though.

    Aidan.
     
  7. hontonai

    hontonai Registered Contrarian

    1970 was the 25th anniversary of the end of WW II, and at least one Dutch gold medal with busts of Queen Juliana and her husband Prince Bernhard was struck, but it has a different legend. Babelfish strikes out at translating the legend on the reverse of yours, although Margaret and Beatrix are the daughters of Queen Juliana. In fact, Princess Beatrix became Queen Beatrix on Juliana's death.
     
  8. Aidan Work

    Aidan Work New Member

    Hontonai,Queen Juliana actually abdicated in 1980,& died in around 2004.Prince Bernhard died a few months after the death of Juliana.

    Aidan.
     
  9. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    Cannot tell you whether that medal is a gold piece or not; if you see something like "916" or "999" on the medal (sorry, I cannot recognize many details), it should be a gold medal.

    Red, white and blue are the colors of the Dutch flag. That carriage is the "Gouden Koets" which means Golden Carriage. It is primarily used for the Prinsjesdag ceremony, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prinsjesdag

    Beatrix and Margriet have already been explained here. Prince Claus is the husband of (then-Princess-now-Queen) Beatrix; Mr van Vollenhoven is Princess Margriet's husband.

    Christian
     
  10. Aidan Work

    Aidan Work New Member

    Christian,Prince Claus is also dead as well.

    Aidan.
     
  11. kiwi01

    kiwi01 Senior Member

    Welcome to the forum Mark and I hope your Kids Appreciate how generous the tooth fairy is!!!
     
  12. Marianne

    Marianne New Member

    This does seem to be a Prinsjesdag medal, as Christian mentioned. I found a recent Dutch auction listing a similar medal at an opening price of €80 ($107), but it didn't sell. The listing was for a 1970 gold medal, "6 vorsten," (members of the royal family) with 3 differently colored stones, 11,9 gr.

    The same auction listed a 1969 Prinsjesdag medal (with "gold coach") but it didn't mention stones. The starting price was €120, weight 16,85 gr. No photos, unfortunately.

    It's driving me crazy that I can't nail this one down!

    If no one else chimes in here, I recommend that you contact the Royal Dutch Mint. They've been quick to respond to my questions.
     
  13. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts


    for once i agree with his use of the term medal :D
     
  14. Mark Ducati

    Mark Ducati Junior Member

    Thanks for the replies fellas....

    I have no intentions of selling the medal, its been in the family, well since 1970... my grandmother was born in Amsterdam. We're polynesian of dutch descent....

    It doesnt say .999 or anything else to indicate solid gold, but it well could be as its very heavy for such a skinny "coin"....

    Thanks for the replies.

    Mark
     
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