The first caesars of Rome

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  1. edteach

    edteach Well-Known Member

    So was Julius Caesar the first Caesar followed by Augustus?
     
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  3. expat

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    The first 12
    Julius Caesar
    Augustus
    Tiberius
    Caligula
    Claudius
    Nero
    Galba
    Otho
    Vitellius
    Vespassian
    Titus
    Domitian
     
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  4. The Meat man

    The Meat man Well-Known Member

    "Caesar" was simply part of Gaius Julius' name. It only became a title after his death. In that way you could say he was the first "Caesar", but there were others of the same name before him - including an ancestor who struck coins bearing the name "Caesar".

    Octavian took his great-uncle's name and was known as Caesar - as Emperor, his full name became Gaius Julius Caesar Octavianus Augustus.
     
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  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    The 12 Caesars is a reference to the writings of Suetonius in which he included Julius Caesar. However, the first person to use the title "Caesar" was Augustus.
     
  6. Curtisimo

    Curtisimo the Great(ish)

    Caesar was treated as a family name by the first four Caesars who were all either descendants of the male Julian line or adopted into it (Julius Caesar, Augustus, Tiberius and Caligula). After the assassination of Caligula the male Julian line died out. When Claudius took up the name Caesar he was making the definitive break from the use of Caesar as a family name to using it as an official title.

    I’ll take the opportunity to post my new Claudius. The innovator himself.
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  7. Curtis

    Curtis Well-Known Member

    I just posted this one in another thread, but here's a "Caesar" a couple of generations before "the" Caesar. In fact, this one's even a "Julius Caesar" -- more specifically, Lucius Julius Caesar (c. 134-87 BCE).

    But that was before Caesar was a title, so it was just his name.

    Julius Lf Caesar Denarius Ex Leo Benz.png

    It didn't become a title until after his ... great-nephew (?) ... "the" Julius Caesar (100-44 BCE) had taken over Rome:

    Julius Caesar X3 Coins that Killed Caesar Denarius.jpg

    One might say that "Caesar" started to become a title when it was adopted by Octavian/Augustus as his claim to power (well, Julius Caesar adopted Octavian/Augustus, who took his name). Technically, though, it didn't become a legal title until 68 CE after the end of the Julio-Claudian Dynasty, when Nero died. (Since it had to passed along to a non-heir.) So, I would say it was a process with some important intermediate steps.

    Augustus Denarius Caius Lucius thumbnail from Ex-Roma Numismatics e-16 351.jpg

    As you seen on the reverse of Augustus' denarius, Caius and Lucius were "Caesares" too. But died before taking over the big show. (That was always kind of a pattern among the Roman rulers. They needed lots of backup heirs.)
     
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  8. GinoLR

    GinoLR Well-Known Member

    And this is the last Caesar. I think this German emperor, who abdicated in 1918, was the very last one to claim the title of Caesar (spelled in German Kaiser).

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  9. Julius Germanicus

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    Germanicus als (adopted) son of Tiberius as well as Tiberius´ (natural) son Drusus junior were "Caesars" by their name, Julio-Claudian family, and status as presumptive successors of the ruling Emperor.
     
  10. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Julius Caesar was not an emperor; he was a dictator. Most people ignore that.
     
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  11. TheNickelGuy

    TheNickelGuy Well-Known Member

    I did not know that. Thanks
     
  12. mcwyler

    mcwyler Active Member

    Russian Czars too until just the year before!
     
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  13. mcwyler

    mcwyler Active Member

    And google informs me that Bulgaria had a tsar until 1946...
     
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