Help Authenticating T. Carisius Coin

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Bodey, Sep 19, 2023.

  1. Bodey

    Bodey New Member

    Hello everyone!

    My name is Bodey and I am new to the forum. I have this coin here that I inherited from my grandfather and I was wondering if anyone could help authenticate it. I know nothing about coins, but after a bit of research I believe this coin may not be original. Can anyone confirm my doubts? If better quality photos are needed that is not a problem.

    Thank you in advance!

    Bodey
     

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  3. The Meat man

    The Meat man Supporter! Supporter

    Hello Bodey! Welcome to the forum.

    The coin's surfaces look way too bright, and it has the mottled or pitted look of a cast replica/fake. Can you weigh the coin? A genuine coin of that type should weigh between 3.5 and 4 grams. Fakes are nearly always considerably lighter.
     
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  4. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    Welcome to CT, Bodey.

    Sorry to say, but I'm pretty sure your coin is a cast fake. I've seen quite a few like this, including the off-center obverse and the banker's mark on the cheek.

    ForgeryNetwork has an example, which unfortunately appears to be a die-match to yours:

    https://www.forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?id=/3O/foNhS~x~Y=
     
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  5. Bodey

    Bodey New Member

    Hello everyone,

    Thanks for confirming my suspicions. I weighted it and it came out to around 3 grams. Not really surprising so I am not devastated. I really appreciate the help!
     
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  6. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    No problem. I'm hardly an expert - I bought my first Roman Republican denarius in 1987 and I still accidently buy fake ones!

    I have what I am pretty certain is a genuine version of your OP - it is so horrible I doubt a counterfeiter would bother making it so ugly:

    RR - Carisius Money Implements Feb 2020c (0).jpg
    Roman Republic Denarius
    T. Carisius
    (46 B.C.) - Rome Mint

    MONETA, Juno Moneta head right (no locks down neck?) / [T.C]AR[ISIVS], anvil with garlanded die above, between [tongs] and hammer; all within
    laurel wreath.
    Carisia 1; Crawford 464/2.
    (3.33 grams / 19 mm)
    eBay Feb. 2020
     
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  7. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    T Carisius.jpg
    T. CARISIUS ROMAN REPUBLIC
    AR Denarius
    OBVERSE: Head of Juno Moneta right, slight drapery
    REVERSE: Implements for coining money: anvil die with garlanded punch die above; tongs and hammer on either side; all within wreath
    Rome 46 BC
    19mm, 3.49 g
    Crawford 464/2; CRI 70; Sydenham 982a; Carisia 1a
    CNG Auction 301, Lot: 244, April 24, 2013
     
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