Struck through cloth?

Found this yesterday. Putting it up on eBay tonight if anyone is interested.

 

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Something pressed into it, it's not a lamination. Were it, the copper core would be showing. Interesting defect taking out part of Y and reappearing some left of R.

 

Looks like a strike through and cloth looks like it.

 

It doesn't look like material (coin bags) weave. Perhaps some one put their hankie edge or necktie between the die and planchett.

 

I can see "Shop rag maybe but not necktie. Do mint workers wear ties? That's just silly, no?

 

The depth of this, I'd think, is suggestive it's more than cloth. Whatever it is, it took a bite out of this coin, and even flattened down the collar some. I'll wager a Mint worker would know. But no rag or tie is going to impress a planchet like this. That divot on the side of the head is also illustrative. Debris of some kind got sandwiched into this thing. Why don't you send it off to the CONECA forum? That's what I think I'd do.

 

Sorry , poor humor ! I do remember a photo of them wearing something similar to short heavy work aprons on the press floor, but that was decades ago. I just did not think that happened by itself, but needed human help. IMO, Jim

 

How is cloth going to take a bite like that out of metal?

 

OK, I'll need to see that. Grease fills devices, I'm familiar with that. However, unless I'm missing something, I don't recall any examples of it displacing planchet metal.

Might this be it, you're saying those affected areas are smooth? They look like bites into the coin to me. Not trying to be a PITA, I'm trying to understand.

 

So to cut to the chase the striking pressure was so great the rag or whatever couldn't compress anymore and drove into the annealed planchet? I looked up "bulk modulus" and am trying to visualize this.

 

I would think the cloth ( plant material) with it's high organic bonding content would have been ejected by the metal bonds that are stronger.

I am sure glad they stopped making underwear out of that cloth. I guess Superman got his cape caught flying through the mint. It's always good to learn.
Jim

 

A fancy way of saying metal is harder than cloth? But yeah, that's why I'm still not conceptualizing it. I'd be inclined to think the atoms and molecules would be inclined to disperse laterally rather than vertically dig into the metal. And if you look at the shape of this error, it's well-defined. It just doesn't appear like cloth formed it, not the way it's cut off and then angled back, at 135-some degrees. I'm thinking maybe I got this baby wrong, now, maybe it is a lamination. The surface looks exactly like one. The copper isn't showing, but then maybe it's not bit in to that depth to expose the core.

Think I talked myself into it, going with lamination error now.