1858 Seated half for eval

Yep. That happens. Avoid me, if you want to stay grounded in reality.

THAT is the point. THAT is also the point of the word "ENHANCED".

The Chicago crowd were VERY good at this, and for this Series, this was a favorite toy.

Then again, I am never been absolutely sure of anything in my life, so you are probably correct.

I used to know stuff, but now I am told I don't know stuff. Very confusing, for me.

Where are my GI Joe slippers?

 

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There is a bright spot behind the eagle’s neck that strongly says “cleaned.”

As for authenticity, I had the same concerns when I first saw the picture. There’s something that seems odd about it. I have an 1860-O half dollar that I will post later to use for a comparison.

 

Here are some Liberty Seated, No Motto Half Dollars. Now that I have seen the OP coin on my desktop monitor, I like it less.





Here is an an 1861-O in EF-45, raw.

 

you don't say why you don't like it other than the old cleaning. 10 or 15 people on this and another site thought it was genuine. For the price I paid I am ok I believe. Cerified EF ones are close to $200 and I paid less than a third of that so if its real I am happy. That 1861 O has some very noticeable hairlines around eagle's head also.

 

Yikes.....I am wondering whether or not the OP is married. I suspect not, considering the lesson married persons learn:

There is no such thing as absolute, there is no such thing as being right, there is no such thing as having to explain an opinion, and there is no such thing as "Ifism" as a quantifier of correctness of opinion.

Even if 10 or 15 people agree with the OP, expressing a dissenting personal belief based on 10-15 is not allowed in a marriage, and is not "Absoluteism".

I can't find my Popeye Pajamas.....

 

another strange post and I am married.

 

Sigh....you are absolutely correct in your assessment of the piece ( and of me).

If I were in your Ifism shoes, I would not hesitate to forward this Piece to CACG to obtain the vindication you seek.

I have prepared the way for you, by forwarding your images in advance of your submittal.

I want to be helpful. That is the kind of guy I am.

YW.

 

Here are the 1858 and the 1861-O side by side. I would definitely genuine for the 1858 but also definitely cleaned.

 

cleaned is ok for the price I paid. If I sell it to my local coin store and make $20 to $40 than I am fine with that.

 

Cleaned is the least of the issues you might want to consider. Another member had some good starting points for consideration, that you did not consider worthy of scrutiny.

I note that you did not consider any question I offered as worthy of consideration.

I understand. You are and investment collector. You seek agreement with your opinion to justify unloading the piece on another collector, and will be happy if you make a couple of $. Nothing wrong with that, it is between you and your conscience.

Submit it, for no other reason except a worthwhile learning experience. After all, you may hit the gambler's jackpot.

Still can't find my GI Joe slippers....

 

selling it to a coin shop has nothing to do with my conscience. No reason to submit the coin. Never my intent. Enough said on this subject. Find someone else's post to pick on.

 

Good enough. I have volunteered enough of my free time to your quest of Righteousness. She needs some stuff done, and there are no ifs ands or buts about that, after 54 years.

You need to search out another Huckleberry.

And, submit it. You are going to make millions. Millions, I tell ya.

 

Thanks for that sane comment. Was tired of dealing with my heckler aka charley

 

I thought the coin was in the 40 to 45 camp also. Has less luster (at least picture wise) that it should have but I can't really say anything about being cleaned or dipped without seeing it in hand. nice coin, lot of meat on the bone for the price. James

 

I feel guilty, now.

 

Yeah it’s had an old cleaning. I still think people are being a bit generous in grade. I’d say on the most leinient day 40. And I’m still at 35. Barely. But it’s a great album coin. A not worth grading rather common no motto half that’s survived the civil war and a lot of commerce. And it has no drastic marks and hasn’t been scrubbed within an inch of its life. I don’t hate it I respect it for what it is. Not something I’d put in my permanent collection but I’m fussy. But for a price it’s a good coin

 

Perhaps but there is considerable wear on the leg and on Liberty's chest. I'd like to see a bit more in an EF. Now my grading standards for seated halves is quite old. I know a few years ago this would be a no questions asked VF and that's if there were no cleaning or rim bangs.