Well, I found this one: Does this have enough of the original color to be considered RB? Also I'm struggling to find much in the way of faults with this one but the coloring makes it hard. I'm pretty sure this is MS... I'm thinking at least MS65 but could it be higher? I'm not really seeing any significant hits... What do you think and why? Thanks!
It looks cool. I don't think there's enough red left to be called RB if graded. I think it's too far past.
Quite the spread in opinions on the grade - 50 to 64... What wear are you seeing? I see that the lines in the beard don't go all the way up but I was assuming that was in the strike of the coin since I saw some in the MS photogrades that were like that as well.
I have been trying to look for "flattened" areas for wear vs lighter definition that still has contours for quality of strike. On this one I thought it was the latter. Is that not correct? If not then, where am I going wrong on trying to differentiate between wear vs strike?
I'm not seeing wear. I'm seeing haze from something across Lincolns face. Maybe PVC. I would give it a bath in acetone.
Just a suggestion, no disrespect intended. You have the coin in hand, we see the photos on a video screen from as small as a cell-phone to that of a large TV. All we ca do is say what we see, it is not intended as a reflection on you or your coin. We are trying to help the best we can. No one here or there will know what grade will be given by which grader. If you are unsure on expected grades, I suggest sending them first to Insider at ICG where the grading is inexpensive compared to the others, see pricing below. You can email Insider here as he is a member. He has irritated me a few times by seeing things I didn't, but he is almost always right!! from Insider on forum pricing "Unfortunately - now $12 but now a $3 savings per coin. Return Postage went up to $25 for 1-10 coins and $30 for 11-20 coins." Jim
No offense taken and I get it. I'm really only looking to get an estimate on the grade to guage whether it is worth professional grading or if not, something to base value off of. I hope I am not coming off too sharp in my responses. My communication style tends to be direct but there isn't any negativity behind it. When I ask the detailed questions on why, it is just because I'm trying to learn more and if I'm not seeing it then I want to know what I'm missing. I appreciate all the feedback and am looking for the truth, not just what is favorable to me. When there are differing opinions like this though, I like to get more info to see what makes sense to me, is all.
Almost all of us have been through similar learning situations. It is multiple times easier to see ( due to angles of light hitting the coin) things on the coin as we tilt it that we didn't when shown flat on a screen. Also many have differing amounts of time in to coins, some a few days and some many decades and our brains judge them differently as comparisons. We may see a coin as MS65 but a prof. grader as AU58. Early learning is always difficult. Jim
I'll just pull out my 3d scanner with light kit in that case... j/k, those are still pretty expensive.
Here is an MS-65, Red. These coins were made from fresh dies. Lincoln should have sharp details. The OP is a lower end AU grade coin.