Philip II - Recent Purchase

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Topcat7, Jul 14, 2016.

  1. Topcat7

    Topcat7 Still Learning

    I recently purchased this Philip II because I liked it.
    I believe it to be
    Philip II (Young Prince) AR Antoninianus. 245 AD.
    Obv: M IVL PHILIPPVS CAES, Radiate, draped & cuirassed bust right
    Rev: PRINCIPI IVVENT, Philip II, in military dress, standing right with globe & transverse spear.
    Rome Mint (4th Issue - 3rd Officina)
    Ref: RIC 216c, RSC 54
    from J. Eric Engstrom collection, ex CNG

    I wonder how others feel about it?
    Any ideas to clean/not clean?

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    Philip II (R)z.jpg
     
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  3. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    I would leave well alone. If you attempt to clean the spots they will still be evident as different from the rest of the coin. The portrait is a gem. Congrats.
     
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  4. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    I don't think you can do anything for the spots. I think it's a wonderful coin and a great portrait!
     
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  5. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    I wouldn't do anything to it. Little spots or adhesions almost never bother me, and certainly not in this case. It's a nice coin.
     
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  6. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    It's a total winner as it is ... congrats, Topcat (the spot is kinda like a beauty mark, rather than a flaw)

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  7. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Cleaning is for coins that you are willing to risk making ugly or worthless because the 'dirt' makes the coin undesirable. You have the opportunity of ruining a perfectly nice coin in the hope of making a 10% improvement. My skill level suggests I should leave well enough alone. Yours?
     
  8. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Nice coin OP. Here is my ant of Philip II

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  9. New Windsor Bill

    New Windsor Bill Well-Known Member

    Very nice example, CONGRATS.
     
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  10. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Love the portrait. Leave the rest alone.

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  11. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    Lovely coin TC, I would leave it as is.
     
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  12. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Agreed!!! It's a beauty just as it is!!!
     
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  13. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Nice coin, I would leave it too.

    [​IMG]
    PHILIP II (247 - 249 A.D.)
    SYRIA, Seleucis and Pieria
    BILLON TETRADRACHM
    O:AVTOK K M IOVLI FILIPPOC CEB: Laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right. Seen from behind.
    R: DHMARC EX OVCIAC VPATO D: Eagle standing right, wings spread, holding wreath in its beak, ANTIOXIA S C below.
    Anioch, Syria Minted: 249 AD
    26mm
    13g
    SNG Cop 1211, Prieur 473
     
  14. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    I have a tendency towards the oriental mint versions and will accept a drop in quality accordingly.

    Philip II Antoninianus

    Obv:- IMP M IVL PHILIPPVS AVG, Radiate bust right, seen from the front
    Rev:- AEQVITAS AVGG, Aequitas standing left holding scales and cornucopia
    Minted in Antioch
    Reference:– RIC 240(a)var. RSC 1 var. Bland 64

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  15. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    I've been looking for PII Antioch Ants, they seem to go high, even on ebay auctions at times.
     
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  16. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I posted this not too long ago, it is my only one, but it was one of the those fun, unique coins that Warren always seems to have...

    RI Philip II 244-249 Nisibis Mesopotamia-farthest EAST Temple Obv-Rev.jpg
    Roman Imperial (Provincial)
    Philip II
    Nisibis, Mesopotamia. Struck as Augustus, 247-249 AD.
    The easternmost city in the Roman empire.
    25 mm. 12:00.
    quadrastyle temple with city goddess within.
    Sear GI 4157. BMC Greek 28 (Nesibi, Mesopotamia)
    From the cool collection of Warren Esty
     
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  17. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Why would you want to improve an almost perfect coin at risk of ruining it forever ?

    I wish mine's portrait were as nice

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    Philippus II, Antonianus struck in 246 AD
    M IVL PHILIPPVS CAES, Radiate and draped bust of Philippus right
    PRINCIPI IVVENT, Philippus II standing left, holding globe and spear
    4.42 gr
    Cohen #48, RCV #9240

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  18. Topcat7

    Topcat7 Still Learning

    Thank-you, everyone, for your nice comments.

    Well said, Doug, and if you wouldn't (and no-one else would), then I won't, either.

    Great coins, all. Thank-you people. I shall put it away as it is.
     
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  19. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    My only 'as Caesar' Philip II Antoninianusis not clear on the reverse.
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    The type also comes as a sestertius.
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    +1
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  20. Topcat7

    Topcat7 Still Learning

    Doug, does that mean that this sestertius is of the same type, too?
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  21. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    yes, unless you are specialist enough to care about right or left facing reverses.
     
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