1996 “extra letters” above IGWT ?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Gorham_Collector, Aug 19, 2023.

  1. Gorham_Collector

    Gorham_Collector Specializing in Shield Cents

    Curious to other theories.
    1996 penny with the The metal above the letters is the metal from the said letters.
    Curious what’s going on?
    Maybe When it was ejected I say, it then got knicked and this is the outcome. Or could be when struck the metal flowed away from the letters idk. no physical damage at the tops of the letters but above the raised zinc is there in the outline of the letters and metal is missing from the top of the letters but it has the copper layer over it still .
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  3. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    They look like plating blisters to me. Wrong size and font to be letters.
     
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  4. Gorham_Collector

    Gorham_Collector Specializing in Shield Cents

    No not plating blisters 100% characteristics are not there for them.
    The parts above the GOD and E you can tell that they came from if you were to drag them down untop of the letters it would match up to those areas. here’s another example not my coin it’s circulated. So it does look differnet but characterizes are there raised and more extreme they came from the letters too.
    You can see on my on the Top right of O & D where slight metal is missing and those are the raised parts above the letters.
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  5. Evan8

    Evan8 A Little Off Center

    It's split plating. Since the cent planchets are plated before striking, the strike can cause the plating to pull away and into the devices. Not an error, actually fairly common on 95% zinc cents.

    Here is an error ref page about it:

    https://www.error-ref.com/split-plating/
     
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  6. Gorham_Collector

    Gorham_Collector Specializing in Shield Cents

    Are you referring to split plat doubling?
    If so That’s not close to what this is. Characteristics aren’t there and the split plating would extend all the way to. The edge of the devices.
    From the top of the letters to where the anomaly starts is copper if split plate itd show the zinc between that part.

    this is something completely different to split plate doubling. And isn’t common at allZ
     
  7. Evan8

    Evan8 A Little Off Center

    Yes that is what I meant. And yes that is what is going on with your coin. And yes it is common. You can literally see the zinc showing through. If you are so sure it is something rare and valuable then send it in.
     
  8. Gorham_Collector

    Gorham_Collector Specializing in Shield Cents

    I know what split plate doubling looks like this is not it 100%
    The zinc “showing thru” is raised here and the tops of the letters the metal of the devices is missing, and no evidence of damage to the letters missing there parts which add up to the anomalies above those said letters. Matching those missing areas 100%
    idc if it’s something rare or valuable I enjoy finding out new info on coins with odd things going on with them.
    This is no split plate doubling at all.
     
  9. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    No. This is just split plate doubling (plating issue) common on Lincoln cents.
    Pareidolia on the lettering.
    Here's my example:
    Split plate doubling.jpg
     
  10. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Boy, just can't please everyone. screaming.gif
     
  11. Gorham_Collector

    Gorham_Collector Specializing in Shield Cents

    I know its not split
    Unfortunately mine isn’t split plate doubling characteristics don’t add up to that at all. These are raised areas far away from the devices that match up to the top of those letters bc the metal is missing in that area for them.
     
  12. Gorham_Collector

    Gorham_Collector Specializing in Shield Cents

    I know you’ve seen all posts or most that I’ve posted all my coins are legit errors.
    This one I’m just trying to get information on.
    I would not be posting this if it was split plate doubling because why would I do that. Ridiculous bc my knowledge is better than that. That’s be like a knowledgable collector posting a parking lot coin but all his other posts reputable. move posted to a few Facebook groups
    Anyways.
     
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  13. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Okay. Let's wait for more people to chime in shall we? :bookworm::brb:
     
  14. Evan8

    Evan8 A Little Off Center

    Apparently, you aren't. What you want is "ooh ahh" or " wow what an error"

    You aren't going to get that validation here for that coin.
     
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  15. Gorham_Collector

    Gorham_Collector Specializing in Shield Cents

    No… that’s not what I want at all lmfao.
    What I want is to figure out what’s going on with the coin bc it’s interesting and haven’t come across one before like it.

    I’m only striking down the split plate doubling comments because it is not that at all and I know that 100% and that is not a valid theory here because once again that’s not what’s going on.
    Lmfao I don’t look for any validation of a coin ever.
    I’m looking for educated comments and theories of what is going on to the coin. split plate doubling is not that theory, and characteristics don’t add up to that at all. So that is getting shut down quick.

    Im happy to hear others opinions etc. and to welcome them and what they think
    but research and knowledge tells you without a doubt it’s not split plate doubling
     
  16. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Definitely a Die Deterioration issue.

    I do see a hint of zinc :watching:
     
  17. cwart

    cwart Senior Member


    Wait, so you’ve never seen it before but you know what it is and isn’t? @SensibleSal66 posted pics looking remakarkably similar to yours. A simple question, how in the minting process would what you are claiming have happened?
     
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  18. Gorham_Collector

    Gorham_Collector Specializing in Shield Cents

    That’s what I wanna figure out where it’s happens During the process. striking and ejection? Was my first thought.
    Getting knicked the metal but no damage done to the physical devices and the tops of the devices where the metal is missing and above the letters is copper plated still I’d expect to see damage there showing metal displacement or zinc none of the such there.
    Again what is seen on this memorial cent what I posted I haven’t encountered before. I’ve encountered split plate doubling plenty of times and it is not that at all.
     
  19. Gorham_Collector

    Gorham_Collector Specializing in Shield Cents

    I thoguht to but am curious for die deterioration in how metal from the devices can get that far away.
    Also thinking about die deterioration and how it looks like etc having a hard time seeing how die deterioration would cause what is being seen.
    It’s interesting
     
  20. Gorham_Collector

    Gorham_Collector Specializing in Shield Cents

    Going back to similar images posted no metal is missing from the physical devices of the letters.
    Split plate doubling is from the strike when the copper is stretched to thin and separates.
    That clearly didn’t happen here the raised physical metal of the devices and the devices missing those exact “pieces” does not add up to how split plate doubling occurs.
     
  21. Gorham_Collector

    Gorham_Collector Specializing in Shield Cents

    Some other images ‍♂️ tough to get IMG_2335.jpeg IMG_2339.jpeg IMG_2342.jpeg
     
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