What does the stained designation on a coin indicate?

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  1. goldrealmoney79

    goldrealmoney79 Active Member

    I saw this coin recently, proof trade $, https://www.ebay.com/itm/204427729130?
    that has a stained designation, but to me looks like toning, I was curious how can differentiate stain versus toning? Also how does one even stain a coin? Is staining the same as artificial toning?
     
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  3. samclemens3991

    samclemens3991 Well-Known Member

    I am not sure what the grading services mean by staining.
    Personally, I saw a group of 4 Seated Dollars in a coin shop in Sioux Falls South Dakota back in the 1990's. All four had been stained with some sort of walnut wood stain. You could even smell it. I said nothing and never went back. James
     
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  4. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I would assume that "stained" refers to a foreign substance adhered or adsorbed onto the coin. "Toned" refers to a layer of oxide or sulfide produced by a chemical reaction with the coin's surface. I'm not sure how sharp that dividing line really is, though.
     
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  5. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    The toning on that coin has gone too far. The surfaces under the black toning are probably dull with no mirrored reflectivity.
     
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  6. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    It isn't.

    Once you have the necessary experience it's actually pretty easy to recognize the difference.

    By placing a foreign material, usually a liquid but sometimes a jelly like substance, on the coin or portions of the coin. They even sell commercial products specifically designed and marketed to do this for you.

    Absolutely not, but at times, depending on how the artificial toning is done, there can be similarities.
     
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  7. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Ugly toning. It should be professionally cleaned and treated.
     
  8. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    Here's an example of staining (not toning). Something contacted the surface of this OBW end-roll coin in a circular pattern. You can see, the coin is toned and that looks quite different from the staining. The stain is on top of the toning.

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