Counterfeit liberty seated dollar

Horrible obvious fake (price also lol) only CC's for seated dollars were in the early 1870's. https://www.ebay.com/itm/374881176611?

 

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Oh, no! Not another one.

 

Chinese pukes at it again........Carson City didn't even exist at that time.

 

Christ that’s atrocious. I didn’t have to look at the reverse to see it’s fake

 

Yes it is,the person is brand new.The description seems off,apparently they don't have the sense to do simple proper research and be honest.Forgot to tag you @Jack D. Young let's get this one down.

 

WOW, that is BAD!

 

eBay removed it...

 

It was atrocious. Glad it’s gone.

 

If we keep telling them what's wrong with the coins, all we are doing is feeding them with what can do to improve. My opinion only.

 

I don't think "the CC mint didn't exist in 1847" is revealing a pick-up point that the counterfeiters would never figure out on their own.

 

Yes but on the other hand some of the counterfeit coins are pretty good.Experienced collectors even make mistakes.If we take no action then more and more will just come as they think (we don't care).But that means if they see the defective tricks it just makes counterfeiting coins harder and harder for them to make thus less coins and possibly quiting.Also saving more money and possible people interested into coins from making mistakes.

 

“In God we trust,” was also not above the eagle in 1847.

 

Along with her sister, also removed from the Bay...

 

Well, maybe an epidemic...

Found a couple more with the motto reverse and CC MM; date is always one of the tells:

 

Seller relisted the OP's with a better reverse image and is throwing in a "1999 Walking Liberty, Painted Uncirc"...

 

Why does this not surprise me,well off it goes again.

 

Like whack-a-mole...

Looks like a new research article brewing.

 

I strongly agree. There's certain "tells" I've come to recognize over the years for counterstamped coins, especially Irish pieces. I don't publish them for that reason, but will share my knowledge with those legitimate collectors who ask.

Bruce

 

Double edged sword, and I have a couple examples where they improved their "product" likely as a result of my written articles. So, we attribute the new ones and show they are fake while folks have a guide to help with all of the earlier versions that are still out there.

I agree though there are some "tells" I don't disclose in my articles as well; not interested in the counterfeiters becoming numismatists...

 

It is a double edged sword for sure. Most of the Irish conflict stamps are modern though quite a few are much earlier...as early as the 1640s.

I don't see any fakes that early. Most of them are pieces related to the Irish Troubles beginning in the 1960s and struck in the past ten years or so. Fortunately, I'm only aware of a handful of makers...maybe a half dozen. Only two or three are still active today so the problem seems to be lessening on its own.

Bruce