July 4th Quiz #5

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  1. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    What do we call this characteristic commonly found on coins with natural toning? Please give the beginners a chance to answer.

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  3. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Okay, I'll wait. La-la-la-la-la, ho-hum. I can't hold my breath much longer.
     
  4. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Some folks call it doubling. Lol
     
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  5. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    I've seen that.
     
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  6. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    No idea. I can't recall ever having seen that shadow effect. But then I've not been collecting but 5 years.
     
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  7. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Shade. Lack of sunlight
     
  8. Dynoking

    Dynoking Well-Known Member

  9. Joshua Lemons

    Joshua Lemons Well-Known Member Supporter

    I actually know this one!
     
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  10. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Totally clueless as to what the answer is.
     
  11. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    You mustn't be a Morgan guy....and that's fine. I don't think you see it much on other series..
     
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  12. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Indeed, you are quite correct. :)
     
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  13. BurrosCoins

    BurrosCoins Well-Known Member

    I believe it's called Pull Away. Something to do with what happens to the metal as it is pushed and stretched when the coin is stuck. Causes the metal to not tone at the same rate as the surrounding metal.
     
  14. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    This "effect" is commonly seen on originally toned dollars. BurrosCoins, posted the answer: "Pull Away."

    It is a good bet that most of the long-time members here already knew the answer.

    A "halo" would completely encircle the numerals.
     
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  15. BurrosCoins

    BurrosCoins Well-Known Member

    Just lucky. I usually don’t get these right. Just happened to come across one that was similar a while back. Still learning.

    Thanks for the quiz @Insider
     
  16. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    When I first encountered Pull Away on a Morgan I thought the coin was counterfeit.
     
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  17. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    It can happen on any coin that has sharply defined stuff near the rim. You usually only see it on uncirculated coins, which is why you tend to see it on Morgan dollars. This 1697 sixpence shows it on a few of the letters. III DEI on the obverse and REX 16 on the reverse are most obvious.

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  18. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    What causes that Messy?
    Is that an out of tolerance planchet?
     
  19. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    Metal flows from the center outward when the coin is struck. The peripheral lettering interrupts the flow a bit. As a result, the fields just beyond it have less flow and end up toning differently. The presence of a collar die seems to make it more pronounced. I can't explain beyond that. Guessing that more flow means a more "raw" surface for toning, while less means that whatever was on the surface at time of striking is now more embedded in the metal, making it resistant to toning. Planchet preparation would also come into play, then. A bright, scrubbed planchet immediately struck might tone without developing pull-away toning.
     
  20. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Thanks @Insider this is fun stuff. In the crazy kinda of way. I learn something.
     
  21. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    You members are good coaches
     
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