Hadrian As Roma 132-34 AD Hadrian on horsback left

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  1. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    Reference. Very Rare
    RIC -; C.-; BMC 1433; RPC 3, 6568; Strack -

    Obv: HADRIANVS AVGVSTVS.
    Laureate bust right, drapery on left shoulder

    Rev: ADVENTVS AVGVSTI / COS III P. P. (No S-C in field)
    Hadrian on horse rearing left, raising hand and holding spear.

    14.95 gr
    28 mm
    h
    663Hadrian RPC6568.jpg
    Note
    The reverse exergue reads ADVENTVS AVGVSTI or the arrival of Augustus
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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Nice bronze, Eric.
     
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  4. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    The discussion is Rome mint or Eastern
     
  5. IdesOfMarch01

    IdesOfMarch01 Well-Known Member

    I'm a rank beginner when it comes to Hadrian -- I have only two of his coins -- but the portrait style does not look like any other Rome mint Hadrians that I have seen.

    Nice coin nonetheless.
     
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  6. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    here you see al my Hadrian's i find i very much like Rome like style :D

    http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/index.php?cat=37270
     
  7. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    A beautiful and interesting coin.
     
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  8. New Windsor Bill

    New Windsor Bill Well-Known Member

    Gorgeous. LOVE IT.
     
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  9. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Your page shows no Eastern asses/sestertii. Have you any links to coins recognized as such? Are there many unofficial bronzes of the period?
     
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  10. icerain

    icerain Mastir spellyr

    Good looking coin. Don't have any Hadrian coins at the moment, looking into getting a denarius or two... ah what am I saying? once I start it becomes four or five. :oops:
     
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  11. IdesOfMarch01

    IdesOfMarch01 Well-Known Member

    Good point. While I see that there are numerous styles of Hadrian's portraits on Rome-minted coins, there still seems to be (for reasons I can't articulate) a stylistic difference in the OP's coin when compared to Rome-minted coins. So illustrating non-Rome coins could prove illuminating.
     
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  12. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Impressive.
     
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  13. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Interesting coin, Eric. Looks Rome-y to me too.
     
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  14. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    I do not have similar coins, looking at my Hadrian's you see it very similar to Roman style, i know this makes it NOT for sure Roman, i see it as Roman style until proven other wise, same idea as Curtis Clay, the BM think it might be Provincial due to metallurgie, on there testing of there specimen.
    one can say the lettering is a bit thinner, (i did not see that at first) for now i stick on Roman.
    i don't mind if its roman or provincial, provincial would it make it even more interesting of course :D

    There are not many unofficial bigger bronzes from Hadrian, i'll ask the BM.
    best,

    eric
     
    Last edited: Jul 8, 2016
  15. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Wow, that's a fantastic OP addition, Oki ..... another winner (great horse)

    => hey, pretty soon the BM will be asking you for advice on Hadrian coins, eh?

    Keep-up the awesome collection
     
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  17. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    update on RPC
    6567 and 6568 which form one group, as die identities prove, look like small medallions, of the size of dupondii. They lack the SC formula and their metallic content (at least for the L specimen which has been analysed) is not orichalcum, but high tin bronze (Sn 17.7%; Pb 9.8%: unpublished analysis by Q. Wang, British Museum). This suggests that they were not struck in Rome but elsewhere. It is then difficult to resist the idea that they were struck in the East and that the Adventus reverse design links them with Hadrian’s journeys. The obverse style seems to link them to the Ephesian cistophori (compare with RPC 1328-1349) and Ephesian bronzes (see Bellesia, loc. cit., p. 13). Anomalous denarii of Hadrian, which diverge stylistically from both the mint of Rome and Antioch, are also of a similar style as some of the cistophori of Hadrian . See also General Introduction, chapter 4.
     
  18. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    sweet and interesting coin...whatever it is exactly..neato!
     
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  19. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    The lack of SC and wide flans of the three coins makes me favor the mini-medallion theory rather than Provincial 'coin'. I don't see this being provable one way or the other.
     
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  20. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    Hello Doug,

    that hits the nail, thank you.
    it can go both ways

    best

    eric
     
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