1953 Henning Nickel Confirmed and New Die Marker

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  1. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    Ahhhh. Gotcha.

    So then why send it to NGC if that's the case?
     
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  3. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    So they can test the composition of the OP's coin and compare it with the composition of the genuine Henning 5c and a genuine "normal" 5c from the 1950's that you will also send along for comparison.
     
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  4. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    Just a side note, XRF testing (2 levels) at a qualified testing Lab supported my theory that counterfeiters used genuine cull large cents for their deceptive large cent fakes, and proved planchets for the counterfeit 1805 half cents were modern...
     
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  5. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Love your info. I read it all
     
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  7. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    I already did that. I scanned a known 1939 with my 1953. Both 79/20 combo.

    What I meant is that you said they stopped doing XRF tests because the fakes were just as good. So that being the case, you said to send it to NGC for... an XRF test?

    And that brings me back to my question about ICG. Do they not have an XRF machine? How would ICG authenticate a 1965 25c on a silver planchet, or a U.S. coin struck on a foreign planchet?
     
  8. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Joe, you are frustrating me, so this will be my last comment :( in this thread. It is my problem for not studying this thread so I :bucktooth: will try to be very clear this time.

    :cigar::bookworm: JCro57, posted: I already did that. I scanned a known 1939 with my 1953. Both 79/20 combo. That's great. :D When you send the 1953 to NGC, explain that in your letter and also include a genuine 1953 nickel for them to test.

    What I meant is that you said they stopped doing XRF tests because the fakes were just as good. [Yes, I said that. The "they" was every TPGS I worked at from about 1978 to today. Decades ago, there were no hand-held testers. We had to go to universities or the Mint Lab for this testing and we charged the submitter $150 if they wanted this test.] So that being the case, you said to send it to NGC for... an XRF test? [Send it to NGC if you want it slabbed. They have the equipment and will probably want to confirm your findings].
    And that brings me back to my question about ICG. Do they not have an XRF machine? [No, we receive less than 4 coins a year that would need testing.] How would ICG authenticate a 1965 25c on a silver planchet, or a U.S. coin struck on a foreign planchet? [:D Please post your Social Security number here for my answer. :p We would need to see the coin. If we cannot authenticate it, we send it back with "no decision" and recommend trying another TPGS.] ;)
     
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  9. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    Sorry that you're frustrated. Was just trying to understand your answers. I hate communicating in this manner.
     
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  10. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    @JCro57

    Jim - have you come across a 1939 with the dot reverse like mine?
     
  11. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    It's Joe :)

    Not yet. If you ever think of getting rid of it let me know though.
     
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  12. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    Sorry Joe. I didn’t catch that autocorrect renamed you. Lol

    I let a friend know that I got her tea (I was at the drive through). Autocorrect let her know ‘I got her teeth’. The office enjoyed that one!

    Regarding my coin I once found a table that captures the various pairings of obverse and reverse dies. Mine was not listed in that table. Maybe you’ve come across the same table? Or maybe a more complete table? I was wondering about that a while back.
     
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  13. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    Any way I could professionally photograph it? I am working on making a table that is updated. I know Winston Zack made one in his book, Bad Metal
     
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  15. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    PM sent
     
  16. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    I already used that line in my book on the Henning section, and am doing so again in my next publication on Henning Nickels. Kinda beat you guys to the bunch, so no lawsuits on the phrase. But I give you permission to use that in the title of your article :)
     
  17. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    Yes
     
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