Stupid Numismatics

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by dimeguy, Jun 14, 2023.

  1. dimeguy

    dimeguy Dime Enthusiast

    What in this hobby do you find stupid, unnecessary, useless, etc? Guess I could start with my personal opinions:

    1.) Decimal systems, of any kind, for grading coins. Includes the new 10 point scale, stars, pluses. Additionally, I think a 10 point MS scale is silly. Unc, Choice, Gem, done!

    2.) Paying premium for RD, vs RB or BN coins of the same grade.

    3.) Stickers...I don't need green or gold ones on my slabs to tell me it is a superb coin. That should be what my eyes are for.

    Any other opinions anyone would like to add or discuss, feel free to do so.
     
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  3. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Free enterprise, the world is made up of greed and entitlement. They don't want to work for it they want it given to them, just ask any millennial. I'm the best TPG I know, and my eye appeal is all I need; my heirs can fight when I'm gone! Thanks for sharing @dimeguy.
     
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  4. Histman

    Histman Too Many Coins, Not Enough Time!

    Not sure if this is in that realm, but...sellers asking for more than 10% above spot on generally circulated coins. Slabbed, okay. Key & Semi-Key, alright. BU -- if it is a Key or Semi-Key, a little more. Otherwise, nope.
     
  5. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    Scratchin' my head on this one . . .
     
  6. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    Expounding on #1 - the fact that we now have CAC to tell us which one-third of an MS grade the coin belongs in, even though there's already 10 available, yet there is no AU56, AU57, F17, etc.
     
  7. Sting 60

    Sting 60 Well-Known Member

    The US Mint creating rarity by purposely limiting mintage numbers of certain varieties. Example, how many of us have holes in our ASE collection? I'll probably have more later, but this is the one thing I can think of now. Regards.
     
  8. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    Same here. An Indian Head cent in MS65RD is usually much nicer than another cent of the same grade but with a BN designation. I‘d certainly pay more for RD coins…
     
  9. CoinCorgi

    CoinCorgi Tell your dog I said hi!

    Can you keep a RD from becoming a BN? Practically?
     
  10. longnine009

    longnine009 Darwin has to eat too. Supporter

    Lot descriptions that sound like a poetry class or someone writing a romance novel.

    Oh and: "LOOK!" "WOW!" They are their own special brand of retard.
     
  11. Sting 60

    Sting 60 Well-Known Member

    One more. I hear people comment that there's not many young people in our hobby. I see, at least In my state, many of our coin shows never having incentives for the younger generations to come. I have even suggested youth door prizes or youth raffles. I've even volunteered to donate the prizes, but I always get push back that there is no time or personnel and resources to run it. Maybe when I retire, I can volunteer my time to run one.
     
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  12. QuintupleSovereign

    QuintupleSovereign Well-Known Member

    Paying obscene amounts for Morgan Dollars that are MS-65 instead of 64, or DMPL instead of PL.
     
  13. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    Nope . . . Would you pay the same for a week old sun-baked haddock as for one freshly caught an hour ago?
     
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  14. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    The collectors drive all of the above. If we don't subscribe to it, it would go away. All of my coins are in my collection based upon eye appeal. I don't know if they are better than those of others.
     
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  15. CoinCorgi

    CoinCorgi Tell your dog I said hi!

    Now I'm scratching me head. Apples and Oranges. Durable good vs Perishable.
     
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  16. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    What is practically?

    If we start the same condition RD CENT at the same time:

    put one group in open exposure to air,

    put other group in sealed non-PVC plastic sealed food type container with abraded 100%copper foil or metal inside.

    Seal and put away both for 3 months, the difference will easily be seen.
     
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  17. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    Merely an analogue, in which both are oxidizing, and losing their appeal.
     
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  18. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    Unsearched rolls of coins. LOL
     
  19. CoinCorgi

    CoinCorgi Tell your dog I said hi!

    Will it be RD for your entire life? Or for as long as you plan to have it in your collection?

    Seems to be the question ya gotta ask if you are debating whether to pay the premium.
     
  20. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    NGC says "no." Their guarantee for copper coins expires after 10 years. PCGS is even less confident - they no longer guarantee copper color designations at all.

    I'll add another peeve - all the "get rich from pocket change" stuff. Sure, it stimulates the hobby, but the unintended consequence is a boom in people who don't bother to educate themselves and skip straight to "I'm rich!" over their 1982-D cent or their "no mint mark" dime. Virtually nobody gets rich from pocket change.
     
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  21. Silverpop

    Silverpop Well-Known Member

    see i know that most people have no idea of this hobby just that either it's big bucks or the black market either way we can't change the opinions of the world

    but like anything in the real world the human factor is always at play again nothing we can do about that

    now think of why you all got into this hobby and focus on that and remember that reason and enjoy

    see for me as a collector i'm a very simple and plain collector never go for gimmicks , never go after labels, never go after status and have a wide range of collecting ideas i can use and collect what i want not what people think i should
     
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