2015 Lincoln Cent DDR?

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  1. chappell28

    chappell28 Member

    Pretty new to collecting, so not sure whether this is true DD or MD or something else.

    Thanks for the help!
     

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  3. tomfiggy

    tomfiggy Well-Known Member

    Just a reflection. No doubling on the coin
     
  4. chappell28

    chappell28 Member

    Well, now I feel stupid. Appreciate you taking the time to answer, though, regardless!

    One more quick one to review, if you don't mind. Seems like some slight doubling on the S and U most noticeably. 2016-D
     

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  5. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    MD
     
  6. tomfiggy

    tomfiggy Well-Known Member


    Here is my 2011 doubled die. If you notice the extra thickness and distortion of the letters. That is what most modern doubled dies look IMG_1244.JPG like, more thickness as opposed to two separate images transposed.. This is an extreme example as most modern doubled dies have less extreme thickness. Your coin has reflections of your light source causing a thin line to appear along the edges of the letters.
     
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  7. tomfiggy

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    You have no reason to feel stupid. None of us knew anything when we first started out in this hobby. I posted dozens of coins like yours in my earlier days on this forum. It took a long time to develop my eye, and learn what to look for.
     
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  8. chappell28

    chappell28 Member

    Thanks guys! Alright, I have one more; probably mechanical doubling, but it seems fuller than the ones you labeled MD even if slighter.
     

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  9. tomfiggy

    tomfiggy Well-Known Member

    Where exactly do you see the doubling? It's a normal coin. Look at the FG on my avatar. That is doubling. Yours is a reflection of tle LED light from your microscope.
     
  10. chappell28

    chappell28 Member

    I see. Well, as embarrassing as this thread is at least I'm learning a lot!

    Going with the extra thickness thing,is this a normal coin as well? Looks a little thicker than average to me.
     

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  11. tomfiggy

    tomfiggy Well-Known Member

    For one thing it's really annoying to look at upside down photo's. It is normal for the 9 in 2009 to be that thick. I see nothing abnormal on your penny. This pic 89D-fg3.jpg would be extra thickness
     
  12. chappell28

    chappell28 Member

    Fair enough. Will start rotating photos in the future to make sure they are facing right-side up.

    I've read up some on die doubling vs MD vs die deterioration and lighting techniques, so hopefully I'll be able to start challenging myself to decipher "why not?" on my own.

    However, I'm clueless on this attached photo:
    Tue Jun 28 15-51-35.jpg
    It looks sort of like some serious MD/die deterioration + reflection from my singular light source. Is that correct?
     
  13. tomfiggy

    tomfiggy Well-Known Member

    No die deterioration, no MD. Just seeing reflections.
     
  14. tomfiggy

    tomfiggy Well-Known Member

    The first 3 photo's I'm posting are pics I took today with my microscope. You will probably notice that they look like yours. Depending on how I lean, and turn my microscope I can make the "doubling" move around, or even disappear.
    ld1.jpg ld2.jpg ld3.jpg




    These next two photo's are on a 2011 DDO I found roll searching. You will notice the extra thickness of the devices (date), and distortion.
    The top 3 are light tricks, the bottom two are a doubled die. 2011P-date2.jpg 2011P-gooddate.jpg
     
  15. SorenCoins

    SorenCoins Well-Known Member

    The first coin in this thread is mechanical doubling
     
  16. chappell28

    chappell28 Member

    Okay, thanks a lot! That was actually very helpful. I'm doubtful, but it looks like I might see some very slight doubling in this coin. What do you think?
     

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  17. tomfiggy

    tomfiggy Well-Known Member

    I thought you weren't going to put upside down pics on here?
    I don't see any doubling
     
  18. chappell28

    chappell28 Member

    Right-side up and zoomed, just for you!
     

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  19. Steamandlight

    Steamandlight Active Member

    Chappell28 - I can definitely sympathize with you wanting so badly to find a DD :) I hope you do find one... because when you do, you'll immediately know, and see the difference. I was the exact same way when I began CRH about 10 years back. I thought every little thing was a doubled die! I still have about 3 large ziplock baggies of modern coins worth nothing over face, which I sat aside because I was sure I saw "something" Lol...

    To my knowledge - and someone will correct me if I am wrong, I am sure - the most common double die coin, the easiest to find, would be the 1974-D kennedy half DDO. When I found my first one, I was thrilled! I've found a couple dozen, actually, since then. I have a small bag of them.

    If you can, maybe you should buy a few boxes or coin-machine bags of halves, pull all the 1974D's, and just start looking at them with any loupe or scope. Especially, check the "R" it "TRUST - often visible with the naked eye, even on well circulated coins.

    Once you find one or 2 of those, go back to searching as you do now - I guarantee, you'll have a better idea of what you are looking for. And when you start doubting, just pull that first one out again, and look at it again to keep it fresh in your mind. :) It might help!
     
  20. Steamandlight

    Steamandlight Active Member

    I figured I'd give you an idea what I'm talking about. These are the 1974D DDO halves I have left. Look at the R - one of the closeups is of the WORST condition one I have, and you can still see the doubling clearly. The other closeup is of one of the better examples.

    Sorry they are rotated - when I uploaded them they auto-rotated to sideways for some reason? IMG_4866.JPG IMG_4868.JPG IMG_4869.JPG
     
  21. Steamandlight

    Steamandlight Active Member

    Sorry - the closeups did not attack properly I guess. IMG_4868.JPG IMG_4869.JPG
     
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