The Postumus I was after - Mossy Bottom Barn

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  1. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    This recent pick up from YOC thru JA is 1 of the few ancient coinage I knew of before I took the leap into collecting ancient coins. I've seen pictures on the Internet, in books & magazines. The pictures I've seen before the coins were rough & never of the whole coin. This one being the first seeing with my own eyes.
    I hear that YOC had a difficult time acquiring them. A story I would love to read sometime. And thankful for his effort.
    It's one of the better examples I've seen. Although I'm sure those of you who have collected ancients for a while this is nothing new for you. But to me it's a small accomplishment.

    Postumus, 260-269 AD
    Billon Antoninianus, 20mm, 2.8g, 12h;
    Colonia Agrippa, 268 AD
    O bv. IMP C POSTUMUS P F AVG - Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust RT.
    Rev. PAX AVG Pax standing front, her head turned to left, holding an olive branch in RT hand and transverse sceptre in her left.
    Ref. RICHARD Vb 318, p. 363
    From the MOSSY BOTTOM BARN HOARD
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  3. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    The reverse strike is particularly nice - if you can see the folds in Pax's gown, you've got a good strike. 90% of the them are very weak.
     
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  4. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    How true. And this one is particularly nice. Congrats.
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  5. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    It looks like it still has traces of silvering. The obverse die had definitely seen better days though, but that's not uncommon. Coinage during this Era was pumped out at high volumes without too much concern for quality. That's what happens when you are at constant war and have to maintain huge armies to fend off rivals and barbarians.
     
  6. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    Yeah, glad I saw it & it appeared I was the only taker to. I'm happy with it. Tried to get better pics. One of those beauties that doesn't photo well.
     
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  7. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    The obverse actually is pretty good. I can't get a good pic, I've tried different light back drops. The silvering reflects the lights & shadows.
    I work with what I have.
     
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  8. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Well, glad you got it. Postumus is in my want list too. The Era of the three rival empires is particularly interesting. It is amazing Rome managed to survive that instead of further disintegrating into oblivion.
     
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  9. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Coin photography is a long discussion, which we've had plenty of times. It basically amounts to finding a set up and style that YOU like. Lots of people say, "The coin is much better in hand," which is almost always necessarily true. A still shot can only capture so much.
     
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  10. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Exceptional reverse...
     
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  11. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    For those like me whose hobby definitely includes photography, there are coins I wish I had not bought because they were not easy/possibe to photograph well. Some of you go for wear, some for centering, others for smooth edges etc. etc. etc. I like coins that look cooperative when it comes to posing for photos. Like humans, some coins are hams and look good any time there is a camera in the room while others give the photographer a death look.

    There were several (4?) Pax issues. One (below) has a P in the field. Who knows the meaning of it? It would seem obviously to be an officina letter were there other coins with S and T but there are not. References seem to call it a 'mintmark' thereby dodging the question. I do not have the plain one. It seems that Pax was a popular reverse in the later 3rd century when peace itself was not all that easy to find.
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  12. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    Thanks Noob a compliment from you means a lot.

    Sallent, I agree. I'm working on that also, this was a good pick up to me. Gonna take my time finding examples.
     
  13. Theodosius

    Theodosius Fine Style Seeker

    Nice coin Smojo!

    I picked up the other Mossy Bottom Barn coin from YOC (through John Anthony).

    Thanks guys for making these rare coins available to us!

    This is John's photo and attribution. :)
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    Quintillus, AD 270
    Billon Antoninianus, 18mm, 2.3g, 12h; Mediolanum mint, 270
    Obv: IMP QVINTILLVS AVG, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right, seen from behind.
    Rev: FIDES MILIT, Fides standing facing, head left, holding standard in either hand // S
    Reference: RIC 52
    From the YOC Collection, Mossy Bottom Barn Hoard
     
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  14. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    Nice,
    It's on my hit list. I'm bought out for a little while hoping my luck will get better soon. Sales have slowed down & need to get new stuff to flip.
     
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  15. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    that's a fine addition smojo, i'll agree with everyone else and say i totally dig the reverse!

    here's tetricus pax, pretty rough...

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    Tetricus I Æ Antoninianus, 271-274AD Antoninianus
    O: Radiate bust of Tetricus right "IMP C TETRICVS AVG" R: Pax standing left holding a branch and staff, "PAX AVG". Cologne mint. 20 mm, 3.9 g Sear III - 11243, RIC 100


    here's pretty good postumus i have..


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  16. KIWITI

    KIWITI Well-Known Member

    PAX is one of the most common reverses on Postumus coins, altough yours is well struck, rests of silvering and pedigree! great addition is you ask me. ;)

    There is a theory (yet to be proven) that "P" stands for Postumus being in town, since there is another (later) PAX issue of Victorinus which is the same but uses "V" instead.
    Others hint the possibility that this mint was mobile and travelled with the emperor.
     
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  17. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    My PAX:

    RI Allectus 293-296 CE AE Ant PAX Obv-Rev.jpg
    RI
    Allectus 293-296 CE
    AE Ant
    PAX

    RI Carausius 287-293 AE22 London mint PAX Obv-Rev.jpg
    RI
    Carausius 287-293
    AE22
    London mint
    PAX

    RI Victorinus 269-270 CE BI Ant Gallic Empire PAX Obv-Rev.jpg
    RI
    Victorinus 269-270 CE
    BI Ant
    Gallic Empire
    PAX
     
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  18. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    That Pax reverse is outstanding @Smojo ....and my other examples remain unphotographed, weakly struck and 'low grade' so I grabbed this Mars example months ago as an upgrade:
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  19. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    Thanks Mikey. Your Postumus is a nice example, sharp obv.. I saw one a while back but was incomplete & couldnt really tell it was Mars on the rev..
     
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  20. Pellinore

    Pellinore Well-Known Member

    Postumus is a very interesting emperor, and I have three coins of his, a Salus, a Victory and a yellowish AE coin that looks like a Double Sestertius, but where are the legends? The weight is 8,62 gr. and the edge doesn't look clipped (but a bit rough and tumble). On the reverse there's the forepart of a galley and the hindpart of the word LAETITIA.

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  21. YOC

    YOC Well-Known Member

    The legends are there, but it's an imitative type, not official of a galley laetitia reverse. Probably over struck on something.
     
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