Caracalla uncertain mint Cyprus

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Cyrrhus, Jun 30, 2016.

  1. Cyrrhus

    Cyrrhus Well-Known Member

    Dear All,

    Just bought this one, not that it is a perfect coin, but the face is different and a strange Cyprus mint, I think it is quite a nice portrait, looks he good a moustache, that you do not see often.

    From Asearch info:
    Caracalla, AD 198-217. Silver Tetradrachm (14.8g) minted at Cyprus, AD 215-217. Laureate head of bearded Caracalla facing right. Reverse: Eagle standing on ear of wheat; head left. Bellinger 283 (pl. XXVI, #10).Michel & Prieru 1578. Rare mint. Superb Nearly Mint State.


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  3. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Smokey and The Bandit ... starring Caracalla, as Bandit

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  4. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    We can look at that face from 2000 years ago and appreciate the scowl, but I'll bet there were those around him that cringed when they saw it.

    Wonderful coin @Cyrrhus
     
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  5. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    neat coin! interesting how the wing feathers are made...and well as the funky mustache.
     
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  6. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    That's a depiction I have not seen until now---Way cool!! The style certainly seems unique.
     
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  7. .... this is the only photo I have of mine, unfortunately.
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  8. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Is this an effect of wear or something with the dies? I haven't been collecting ancients very long, but I've never seen a mustache before. I've also never seen the Queen...well...

    There are lots of things I haven't seen. I've never seen Caracalla with a mustache.
     
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  9. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    My first guess was a die artefact too....but maybe it's 'real' since a light beard seems evident as well???
     
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  10. Cyrrhus

    Cyrrhus Well-Known Member

    It is 100% another engraver at work, no mistake in the die.
    Maybe artist neve saw him...and just made a guess in Cyprus..
     
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  11. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Nice coin, Cyrrhus!
    I think you are correct, the mint employees in Cyprus never saw his real life portrait. This happened many times in history, most famous the "imaginary" busts of King Ferdinand VII of Spain, most Colonial Mints struck coins with last Kings bust (Carlos IV) or imaginary busts!
    Here is my example from Lima Mint/Peru 1511758l.jpg
     
  12. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    @Cyrrhus.....Coincidentally, I just ran across an example that depicts Caracalla with a mustache, just like your example, and it was struck at Commagene, Zeugma with a reference of Prieur 812...and only slightly differs with the depicted devices.

    Well, now I've seen two ...
     
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  13. Cyrrhus

    Cyrrhus Well-Known Member

    Let me check my Zeugma coin this weekend...
     
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