New Capped Bust Quarter

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  1. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    I'm trying to put together a Capped Bust Quarter die marriage set (reduced diameter; 1831-1838) in XF.
    A bit tough finding them in that grade.
    AU and up are too expensive for me.
    I may have to consider also VF-35 and -30.

    But here's my lastest:

    1833 Capped Bust Quarter, B-2, NGC XF-45 CAC

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    But here's a question about the date area on this coin.

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    The top of the second "3" obviously took a hit
    BUT
    What are those raised dots in the area?
    My only guess is die rust but I don't see that on the rest of the obverse.
     
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  3. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    Oops, wait.
    Another look shows them also in the area of stars 5, 7 & 8.
     
  4. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Plus the clash behind the head. But that's not all I'm seeing.... hey buddy if I'm correct you're in high cotton. :)
    What is up with the "A" in America ? If that's another A to the left that makes this an FS-25-1833-901 and in Au that's a $800 coin!
    Xf 45 CAC got to be in the $600 +/- neighborhood Great score My Friend
     
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  5. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Variety : repunched Letters Reverse
    Pup Of America URS -8 l-3 L-3

    Hold your cards boys and girls.... but I think we have a BINGO!
     
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  6. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    It's a Breen 3924 no period after 25 different eagle
    Browning 2 Rusty obv. And yes you're correct rusted dies
     
  7. fiddlehead

    fiddlehead Well-Known Member

    That's an interesting coin. Excellent!
     
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  8. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Nice pick up Kanga.
     
  9. NSP

    NSP Well-Known Member

    Nice quarter! This die pairing has quite some character... rusty dies, repunched letters, forgetting the period after "25 C"...
     
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  11. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    I forgot to mention the OF is also repunched :)
     
  12. Jaelus

    Jaelus The Hungarian Antiquarian Supporter

    Nice coin and a great variety to have.

    The 1833 B-2 die marriage is the same thing as FS-25-1833-901, because the B-2 die marriage employs reverse F which is the die with the O/F.

    Really O/F is a bad name for the variety though since it was actually a deliberate type change. The reverse die (reverse F) was made to change the shield to using 2 lines per stripe instead of 3 lines, to mirror changes in the other denominations. For whatever reason, this die was only used as the reverse of two marriages, 1833 B-2 and 1834 B-1 (FS-25-1834-901). The 1834 version is extremely common (Cherry Picker's is wrong) but the 1833 version is quite scarce.

    The obverse die on the 1833 B-2 is the same obverse used for the 1833 B-1. It is thought that the die became pitted from rust, and examples of early die states without pitting are extremely hard to find.

    Here's the obverse of my 1833 B-1 in terminal die state. This is the same state as the obverse on your coin would have been before wear. You can see here very well the excessive pitting and clashing that you noted on your coin.

    US25C1833B1_OBV.jpg
     
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  13. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Is that the clash of the reverse shield stripes on Liberty face and Neck? You can see it on both specimens.
     
  14. Jaelus

    Jaelus The Hungarian Antiquarian Supporter

    Yes. Also significant clashes behind the cap and in front of the chin.

    Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk
     
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  15. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    I hope I'm lucky enough to find one as nice as that for my Type Set!
     
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  16. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    WOW!!!
    Thanks for all the responses.
    All I was shooting for was a 1833 B-2.
    Didn't realize it had all that stuff going for it.
     
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  17. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    I want to go coin shopping with you!
     
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  18. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Well, you fellows do live close.........:)
     
  19. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member


    We do....in fact I'm in his neck of the woods 2 to 3 times a month servicing accounts
     
  20. Browns Fan

    Browns Fan Active Member

    What a cool hobby we have!
     
  21. Browns Fan

    Browns Fan Active Member

    Gerry Fortin Rare Coins usually has this type stuff available.
     
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