When is a holed coin not a holed coin?

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  1. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

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  3. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I don't think I have ever seen anything like it.
    Neat coin KBB
     
  4. Joshua Lemons

    Joshua Lemons Well-Known Member Supporter

    What comes to mind is the Australian holey dollar and dump. I don't think I've ever seen a graded one, but my bet is they are straight graded too as they were over struck on Spanish reales, producing two coins, a donut shaped dollar and small round dump that was cut out. I'll look into it. That's a neat coin though!
     
  5. H8_modern

    H8_modern Attracted to small round-ish art

    Thanks for posting it, I love it. Never seen it before either
     
  6. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    That's the first holed example I've seen straight graded but it's not unusual because it was made to be that way for circulation (as opposed to someone making the hole). Some "So-Called Dollars" that were made with a hole (to be worn/placed on a ribbon) also are straight graded.

    As far as counterstamps, NGC does straight grade those. Here are two I found in the GC archives:
    https://www.greatcollections.com/Co...ais-ND-1808-Silver-960-Reis-KM-2511-NGC-VF-35
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    https://www.greatcollections.com/Co...amp-David-Peace-Summit-Counterstamp-NGC-MS-65

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  7. Dougmeister

    Dougmeister Well-Known Member

    The coin in OP's post looks like the guy has been shot with a rather large caliber bullet... ;-)
     
  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    They do, when the countermark is applied by just any 3rd party.

    The exceptions are when the countermark/counterstamp, is applied to a coin by an official govt. issuing authority. When that is the case, and there is no other reason for a details slab, the coins get cleanly graded every time.
     
  9. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    That's what I figured. What's interesting is that the government is giving their stamp of approval that the coin (which they didn't originally issue) meets a certain specification, which is essentially what the Chinese merchants were doing with their counterstamps.
     
  10. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    I've not seen one like that before, so thanks for the info and post.
     
  11. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    I thought of those too.
     
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