1820 Bust 50C - GTG & GTO (guess the Overton variety)

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GTG & GT Overton variety

Poll closed Apr 25, 2023.
  1. VF20

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  2. VF25

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. VF30

    15.8%
  4. VF35

    47.4%
  5. XF40

    26.3%
  6. XF45

    10.5%
  7. O-104 Lg Dt, Kn 2

    0 vote(s)
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  8. O-105 Lg Dt, Kn 2

    0 vote(s)
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  9. O-106 Lg Dt, No Kn 2

    15.8%
  10. O-108 Lg Dt, No Kn 2

    26.3%
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  1. micbraun

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  3. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC Supporter

    I've dropped my answer into your private messages ;) I just couldn't wait.
     
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  4. micbraun

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    Haha Be quick and vote here before I reply!
     
  5. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC Supporter

    I did!
     
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  6. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    It seems I have to vote myself to see the results… what am I supposed to do now? :-D
     
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  7. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    I give it a 35. Nice curls
     
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  8. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Nice "Bustie"! I give it a 40.
     
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  9. Anthony Mazza

    Anthony Mazza Well-Known Member

    VF35 O-106
     
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  10. Vertigo

    Vertigo Did someone say bust?

    Somehow I missed the tag. But I did make it here in time it seems. I'm pretty sure my Overton variety was right. The grade is always tough because different years/overtons wear differently. And the grading services always vary. Even amongst themselves....
    I'm saying 108 based on the T/I alignment and the fact star 7 touches the milling. VF but not sure where although I voted 30
     
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  11. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    voted, and I know the O-#.

    Just the grade, and I think I got it
     
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  12. micbraun

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    Thanks for all the great comments! Most of you nailed the grade and variety or were pretty close.

    Advice: Those of you who are unsure, compare the T/I alignment and also look at the (Unite)D/E location of both O-106 and O-108.

    O-106:
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    O-108:
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    I’ll reveal the grade/variety tomorrow.
     
  13. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    35, I can wait.
     
  14. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    Time is up… most of you did an excellent job! Yes, it’s the O-108 not the O-106 but… BUT… it was graded VF30 which only 3 of you guessed. Interestingly 13 members voted for VF35, XF40 and even XF45. Now I know you know your coins and are pretty good at grading from pictures, so I believe - considering today’s standards - this coin may grade slightly higher :)

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  15. Vertigo

    Vertigo Did someone say bust?

    The trouble is, you can compare with coin facts and see two very similar coins in different grades. Even both being pcgs coins. Bust halves are hard to even guess what pcgs might call them. Strike quality from one die to the next can change the grade from 30 to 35. I have some with that much variation that look like either grade. Because when you compare you can see a 35 that looks like a 30 or vice versa.
     
  16. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    That’s right. Looking at the pics again, I believe this coin was downgraded for the scratch (it is a scratch?) on the obverse.
     
  17. okbustchaser

    okbustchaser I may be old but I still appreciate a pretty bust Supporter

    Nice 108. I think it's than 30 (and said so with my pick). Interesting fact about the 108 is that it is a doubled die reverse--the only one in the capped bust half series.
     
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  18. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    Nice coin :) I somehow missed the tag as well.
     
  19. Vertigo

    Vertigo Did someone say bust?

    Yes that mark on the cheek? It doesn't look deliberate and it is nearly as old as the coin itself. But the obverse yet and still. It is still a very nice looking coin.
     
  20. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    I meant the imperfection on top of the 8 of the date. I am not sure what it is, as I haven’t seen the coin in hand yet.
     
  21. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Wow, I thought it would have been higher. Nice in any event, thanks.
     
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