Need Help Identifying Old Medals

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  1. StevenHarden

    StevenHarden Well-Known Member

    Hello Everyone.

    I have two old medals that I need some assistance in identifying and valuing. I have these labeled as Medal_A and Medal_B. Any help is greatly appreciated.

    Medal_A
    Weight: 107.1 grams
    Diameter: 59mm
    Obverse: Sophia Dorothea of Hanover
    Reverse: Celebration of Nuptials in Hanover November 14, 1706
    SEE PHOTOS BELOW

    Medal_B

    Weight: 56.4 grams
    Diameter: 52mm
    Obverse: Unknown Bust with what seems to be Russian Cyrillic writing
    Reverse: Angel and 3 Cherubs with what seems to be Russian Cyrillic and a 1776 date.
    SEE PHOTOS BELOW

    Medal_A_Obverse:
    Medal_A_Obverse.jpg

    Medal_A_Reverse:
    Medal_A_Reverse.jpg

    MEDAL_B_OBVERSE:
    Medal_B_Obverse.jpg

    MEDAL_B_REVERSE:
    Medal_B_Reverse.jpg

    THANK YOU.
     
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  3. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Can't help you with an ID but just wanted to say that you have some very ornate and beautiful Medals! :woot::happy:
     
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  4. derkerlegand

    derkerlegand Well-Known Member

    medal B features Catherine II (The Great) but the rest - I got nuthin'
     
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  5. PamR

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  6. Chris B

    Chris B Supporter! Supporter

    The first medal says something about a marriage on the reverse but I can't find a match.
     
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  7. PamR

    PamR You Never Know! Supporter

    Yes it’s so odd. When I type it in, a coin does come up but it’s a double image facing the other way.
     
  8. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Sweet
     
  9. StevenHarden

    StevenHarden Well-Known Member

    @derkerlegand Thank you for the information about Medal_B.

    After running a search on Heritage Auctions, I came across two examples of Medal_B. It appears to be a medal commemorating the 50th anniversary of the Academy of Sciences.

    Here is what I came across:
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    I am still looking for information in regards to Medal_A. Any information is greatly appreciated.

    Thank You.
     
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  10. PamR

    PamR You Never Know! Supporter

    Very nice they are.
     
  11. StevenHarden

    StevenHarden Well-Known Member

    Hello Everyone.

    I am still looking for some information in regards to Medal_A at the top of the post. The only information I have is what is listed above. Any information is greatly appreciated.

    Thank You.
     
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  12. PamR

    PamR You Never Know! Supporter

    I have looked and looked. When I search for Medal A… a different one comes up. If, if I find anything I will make sure I post it here. I enjoy a search.
     
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  13. PamR

    PamR You Never Know! Supporter

    Friedrich (III.) I., 1701-1713. Silbermedaille 1706, Brockmann 579.
    GERMAN COINS AND MEDALS
    BRANDENBURG-PREUSSEN, PREUSSEN, KÖNIGREICH

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    Estimated price: 750.00 €
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    Friedrich (III.) I. 1701-1713.
    Silbermedaille 1706, von E. Hannibal, auf die Hochzeit seines Sohnes, des Kronprinzen Friedrich Wilhelm (später König Friedrich Wilhelm I. der Soldatenkönig, 1730-1740) mit Sophie Dorothea (*1687, Ó1757), Tochter des Kurfürsten Georg I. Ludwig von Braunschweig-Calenberg-Hannover am 28. November. Brustbild Sophie Dorotheas r. mit umgelegtem Mantel und mit Perlenschmuck im Haar//Regenbogen über Meer, an dessen Horizont die strahlende Sonne aufgeht, im Vordergrund am Ufer Grasbüschel und Gehölz. 59,09 mm; 101,84 g.
    Brockmann 579.

    RR Stempelfehler am Rand, sehr schön
    Erworben am 2.7.1968.

    Sophie Dorothea (*26.3.1687 Hannover) war die Tochter des Kurfürsten Georg Ludwig von Braunschweig-Calenberg-Hannover und seiner Gemahlin Sophie Dorothea. Am 16. Juni 1706 kam Friedrich I. als Brautwerber für seinen Sohn Friedrich Wilhelm persönlich nach Hannover. Am 18. Juni wurde dann die Verlobung in festlicher Form verkündet und gefeiert. Als Königin fühlte sich die braunschweigische Prinzessin, die barockem Repräsentationsbedürfnis und barocker Kultur verpflichtet war, am Berliner Hofe ihres puritanischen Gatten nie richtig wohl. Sophie Dorothea starb im Alter von 70 Jahren am 28. Juni 1757 im Schloß Monbijou in Berlin und wurde im Berliner Dom beigesetzt.

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  14. PamR

    PamR You Never Know! Supporter

    Hope this helps.
     
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  15. PamR

    PamR You Never Know! Supporter

    Friedrich (III.) I., 1701-1713. Silbermedaille 1706, Brockmann 579.
    GERMAN COINS AND MEDALS
    BRANDENBURG-PREUSSEN, PREUSSEN, KÖNIGREICH

    Back to the list
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    previous lotLot number 3238 next lot

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    Estimated price: 750.00 €
    Hammer-price / sale price: 950.00 €


    Friedrich (III.) I. 1701-1713.
    Silbermedaille 1706, von E. Hannibal, auf die Hochzeit seines Sohnes, des Kronprinzen Friedrich Wilhelm (später König Friedrich Wilhelm I. der Soldatenkönig, 1730-1740) mit Sophie Dorothea (*1687, Ó1757), Tochter des Kurfürsten Georg I. Ludwig von Braunschweig-Calenberg-Hannover am 28. November. Brustbild Sophie Dorotheas r. mit umgelegtem Mantel und mit Perlenschmuck im Haar//Regenbogen über Meer, an dessen Horizont die strahlende Sonne aufgeht, im Vordergrund am Ufer Grasbüschel und Gehölz. 59,09 mm; 101,84 g.
    Brockmann 579.

    RR Stempelfehler am Rand, sehr schön
    Erworben am 2.7.1968.

    Sophie Dorothea (*26.3.1687 Hannover) war die Tochter des Kurfürsten Georg Ludwig von Braunschweig-Calenberg-Hannover und seiner Gemahlin Sophie Dorothea. Am 16. Juni 1706 kam Friedrich I. als Brautwerber für seinen Sohn Friedrich Wilhelm persönlich nach Hannover. Am 18. Juni wurde dann die Verlobung in festlicher Form verkündet und gefeiert. Als Königin fühlte sich die braunschweigische Prinzessin, die barockem Repräsentationsbedürfnis und barocker Kultur verpflichtet war, am Berliner Hofe ihres puritanischen Gatten nie richtig wohl. Sophie Dorothea starb im Alter von 70 Jahren am 28. Juni 1757 im Schloß Monbijou in Berlin und wurde im Berliner Dom beigesetzt.
     
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  16. PamR

    PamR You Never Know! Supporter

    Going to look for translation.
     
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  17. StevenHarden

    StevenHarden Well-Known Member

    @PamR Thank you for the information.

    ..........
    Using Google Translate I have the following:
    Frederick (III) I 1701-1713.
    Silver medal 1706, by E. Hannibal, on the marriage of his son, Crown Prince Friedrich Wilhelm (later King Friedrich Wilhelm I the Soldier King, 1730-1740) with Sophie Dorothea (*1687, Ó1757), daughter of Elector Georg I Ludwig von Braunschweig-Calenberg-Hannover on November 28th. Bust of Sophie Dorothea r. with a cloak thrown around and pearl jewelry in her hair//rainbow over the sea, on the horizon of which the radiant sun is rising, in the foreground on the shore tufts of grass and wood. 59.09mm; 101.84g
    Brockmann 579.

    RR stamp error on the edge, very fine

    Acquired on 07/02/1968.

    Sophie Dorothea (born March 26, 1687 in Hanover) was the daughter of Elector Georg Ludwig of Brunswick-Calenberg-Hanover and his wife Sophie Dorothea. On June 16, 1706, Friedrich I personally came to Hanover as a suitor for his son Friedrich Wilhelm. On June 18, the engagement was announced and celebrated in a festive way. As queen, the Brunswick princess, who was committed to the baroque need for representation and baroque culture, never really felt comfortable at the Berlin court of her puritanical husband. Sophie Dorothea died at the age of 70 on June 28, 1757 in the Monbijou Palace in Berlin and was buried in the Berlin Cathedral.
    ..........

    Does anyone have access to the Gunther Brockmann reference "Die Medaillen der Welfen"? The medal that I have is not a Silver Medal as shown in the example above (referenced as Brockmann 579). The medal I have appears to be Copper.

    Again, any information is greatly appreciated.

    Thank You.
     
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  18. PamR

    PamR You Never Know! Supporter

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  19. StevenHarden

    StevenHarden Well-Known Member

    Thank you for your help on this. The website you provided shows a reference of "Brockmann 579" (I believe this is the Gunther Brockmann catalog number for my piece). Also listed is a reference from Wolfgang Leschhorn title "Mittelalterliche Munzen" indicating a catalog number 287.

    I believe this pinpoints the catalog number of the piece I have, but I am still unable to find a sale listing for this. Would anyone have access to either the Brockmann or Leschhorn references to provide more information on this piece? Or can anyone find a sale/auction listing for a piece with the above-mentioned catalog numbers?

    As always, any information is greatly appreciated.

    Thank You.
     
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  21. PamR

    PamR You Never Know! Supporter

    Thank you! I enjoyed researching it. :)
     
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