It is my impression that non-US error coins are not touted much, particularly by collectors not in the US. Is this statement true enough to pass for a reasonable generality? I don't see any studies of errors on non-US coins with the possible exception of Euro coins. Nothing even close to the treatment Lincoln cents with the Memorial reverse gets (doubled knees, doubled columns, wavy steps, etc.) And nothing like the treatment Minnesota(?) state quarters are getting with the large number of varieties with doubling of the tree(s) on the reverse. I've got a few non-US coins that I believe to have errors. I'll post them for comment sometime later. It's going to take some experimenting with my camera/lighting to get good images, so it'll be a while.
kanga: Yes you are correct, there is not much talk about non-US errors. A while ago some very nice Mexican errors were listed on eBay, off centers etc. They sold for a few bucks each. Now, that may be an under appreciated market.
Many foreign errors are pretty cheap, unless they are very dramatic (like the reverse/reverse UK 1970s halfpennies which appeared recently). You can buy a British 1p coin struck in cupronickel instead of copper for a little short of $200 .
Maybe not much English language talk. The three German forums that I visit more or less regularly, for example, all have "errors and varieties" sub-forums. http://www.emuenzen.de/forum/fehlpraegungen-varianten-und-variationen/ http://www.numismatikforum.de/viewforum.php?f=13 http://www.muenz-board.com/wbboard2/forum27.html Of course they now focus on euro pieces, since that is what you find in circulation here, but non-euro error coins were and are discussed there too. What may be true (I actually don't know) is people around here find errors less interesting, just as toned coins are certainly less sought after than in the US. As far as I am concerned, I find some errors interesting or amusing but would not actively collect them. Christian
Here in NZ there are multiple errors on our coins but people only mention a few and no one even mentions die cracks!
One of the errors I was referring to at the start of this thread is a 2002 Austrian 2 Euro coin. I was there when they shifted from the Schilling to the Euro. Went into a bank to cash a traveler's check and came out with 10 Austrian starter kits and very little cash. The wife was less than thrilled. I opened one bag and in there was a 2 Euro coin with two small clips. It's legit since the Blakesley Effect can be seen. I could scan it but I want to use my camera instead. I can control the exposure better. Probably be early next week before I can do that. I'm going to the Antiques Roadshow tomorrow, and Sunday is Father's Day.
I'm hoping my HTML works in here.<br>Here's the error coins I mentioned in the original post.<p>The first is an 2002 Austria 2 euro.<br><a href="http://mywebpages.comcast.net/dcderoo/2euroclip.jpg">Euro with 2 clips</a> <p>The second is a 1943 South Africa 3d.<br>I think the "3" in the date is a repunch.<br><a href="http://mywebpages.comcast.net/dcderoo/SoAfrica-3d-1943-repunch.jpg">Repunched "3"?</a> <p>The third is a 1945 South Africa 3d.<br>I think the "5" is recut (look in the lower loop.)<br>Also some obvious die breaks.<br>What isn't obvious is scratches in the field which are probably the results of die polishing to remove marks from a die clash.<br><a href="http://mywebpages.comcast.net/dcderoo/SoAfrica-3d-1945-recut-1.jpg">Recut "5"?</a> <p>The fourth is another 1945 South Africa 3d.<br>I also think the "5" is recut (different die; look in the lower loop.)<br>Also some obvious die breaks.<br>What isn't obvious is scratches in the field which are probably the results of die polishing to remove marks from a die clash.<br><a href="http://mywebpages.comcast.net/dcderoo/SoAfrica-3d-1945-recut-2.jpg">Recut "5"?</a>
Okay, it looks like I don't know how to post an image in here. And even my simple HTML doesn't work (<br> and <p>). Let me check something here: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/dcderoo/2euroclip.jpg http://mywebpages.comcast.net/dcderoo/SoAfrica-3d-1943-repunch.jpg http://mywebpages.comcast.net/dcderoo/SoAfrica-3d-1945-recut-1.jpg http://mywebpages.comcast.net/dcderoo/SoAfrica-3d-1945-recut-2.jpg Success (sort of.) It appears that links work, but HTML doesn't. Okay.
There are some world error coins that are VERY difficult to find, for example Korea, Japan and Singapore. Russian error coins can be a challenge too but I am starting to have a nice batch of them.
There's a good market for Australian errors, especially decimal errors. Quality control at our mint in the pre-decimal period was not so great, with things like partial collars, broadstrikes, and clips fairly easy to find. Double struck pre-decimals still fetch some decent money, with an unc double struck 3d selling just recently for $400. Decimal errors go for a lot more than their pre-dec counterparts. There's a full 5c brockage for sale at the moment for a whisker under $2000, a double reverse 5c sold a couple months back for $2500. Simple things like hammer strike 1c and 2c coins in UNC can get $100-$200. A large off-center strike of a $1 coin in UNC will fetch $400+. Similar US 1c coins get less than a tenth of that. That being said, I like errors of any type, here's my first brockage I got about a month back:
Welcome aboard,Markn.That is a very nice Dutch 1c. reverse brockage coin you've got there.The Royal Dutch Mint (Utrecht) privy marks just above the date is very strong.Keep hold of that coin! Aidan.
Mark,where in Aussie are you located? I have an old mate who lives in Sydney.Three of my cousins live in Aussie,but as to which state(s) they are living in,I don't know. What's your area of numismatic interest? Mine is just the British Commonwealth. Aidan.
It will, you just have to adjust your settings - personal preferences - on your profile page. Or of you prefer to use the default settings, then use the little posting icons and they do all the work for you
Mark,you're not wrong about Aussie pre-decimal error coins.We see a lot of Aussie 1/2d. & 1d. coins with planchet faults over here in New Zealand,especially in King George VI coinage. Aidan.
Although I mainly search for as well as collect and sell U.S. coin errors, I do like some of the unique World coin errors! This is my nice BU Red 1960 One Centavo from the Republic of Columbia with a massive off-set Repunched Date, a Die Gouge and incomplete leaves in the Wreath on the Obverse and two large Die Breaks and severe Die Clashing (from the Obverse Die) on the Reverse. I am sorry that the pictures are not great and really do not show the errors well and the beauty of this coin! Frank On 6/22/07 - I added a another picture of the Date with a crude (I should say, poorly done!) outline of the off-set in the Date using the Paint program on my PC. I just thought i would do this, so that you could tell just how significant the RPD off-set is on the coin!
I have collected some Indian error coins and the one which I like most is this one -> Regards Ballabh Garg
During British India period, there were some well known "Full Brokage" coins produced. Here are few of them I have collected in past few years. Victoria "Full Brokaege" rupee Edward VIIth "Full Brokaege" rupee George Vth "Full Brokaege" rupee Regards, Ballabh Garg
Ballabh: Those brockages are really great. In the rare chance that I stumble across one, what are they worth? Frank: Thanks for the neat pictures.