NT or AT?

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  1. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Very interesting.
     
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  3. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    So we're back to the question of intent . Did someone put it in an album and keep it in a hot attic for a few years , or did someone put it in an album to show it , and it toned ?
     
  4. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Actually, first gut reaction was NT. I've seen plenty of stright graded peace dollars with that red sunset toning. What got me was the slight splotchy blue/purple areas and from there I was going with the crowd :( truthfully, I'd put my money where my mouth is on this one with a small sum bet for NT :)
     
  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    If you can't tell the difference, does it matter ?
     
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  6. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    It's not about what we think though ;)
     
  7. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    It always boils down to this, doesn't it? :)
     
  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    It's not, since when ? It is and always has been precisely about what we think. We, collectors, are the ones with the money. And the ones with the money are the ones in control.

    Problem is most collectors don't realize that.
     
  9. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    Well, the TPG's can't tell. IMO, it all comes down to whether they want it in one of their slabs, regardless of the toning. If a coin doesn't have "the look" they're after, they don't slab it.

    And I'll say it again....I can't stand the terms AT/NT. Either something is market acceptable or not, PERIOD. The source of the toning is irrelevant.
     
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  10. mitch721

    mitch721 New Member

    Something not right here--AT. Obverse peripheral toning
    very deep, especially around the date, and Miss Liberty
    stands out like a highlighted portrait. I would guess an
    experimental try to gather info.
     
  11. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    I'll out myself. I didn't tone this coin, I bought it this way, but it's already failed PCGS once. After reading the comments, I'm not sure what to do with it. Maybe dip it out haha?
     
  12. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    The Hawaiians have a saying in Pigeon...

    "You no like em? Then try try again"
     
  13. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    I think it's too dark to dip it without killing it. If you want to lose the color, go after it with electrolytic reduction first. That might do the whole job anyway, a ton more cleanly than dip.
     
  14. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Well this is a coin I'd experiment on , a common date in AU . I'd try a 1/10th diluted dip .
     
  15. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    I think you should run it through the Polarity Ladder. IMO, using a dip on it will kill the coin.
     
  16. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Leave the coin alone and just sell it raw. There are plenty of collectors who would be thrilled to own that coin !
     
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  17. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    I agree. It's attractive, not blatantly AT, and I'm skeptical if a cleaning will do anything positive for it.
     
  18. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    I guess my general rule of thumb is that if I'm on the fence about toning, I pass, and that's the case with this coin. It's not a blatant smurf vomit and clown paint AT, but it does give me pause. It may eventually end up in a holder, but at what cost?
     
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  19. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Thad , could you explain that for guys like me that stopped at HS Chemistry , and barely remember any of it anyways . ;)
     
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  20. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Polarity ladder - start with distilled water, then acetone, then xylene - and only lastly dip.

    Personally, I don't think any of the first 3 are going to do anything to that coin.
     
  21. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Smurf vomit and clown paint? I'm dyin' here.
     
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