Nabataean

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  1. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    This coin was given to me. I am making a wild guess that it is
    Aretas IV, 9 BC-40 AD, King of Nabataea, bronze of 19 mm,
    4.23 grams.
    Obverse: Jugate busts of Aretas and Shuqailait.
    Reverse: Double cornucopias, the names of the King and Queen
    in Nabataean between them.
    IMG_4542.JPG IMG_4543.JPG
    I have no idea which way is up for the reverse.
     
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  3. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Congrats on the new freebie

    Ummm, here are two of my Nabob sweeties ... maybe my examples can help you out with your coin-orientation?


    Nabataean, Aretas IV & Shuqailat, AE17
    9 BC - 40 AD

    Nabataean Aretas IV.jpg


    Nabobateanen Kingdom, Rabbel II & Gamilat, AE17
    70-106 AD

    Nabobateanen Rabbel II.jpg
     
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  4. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    I think 7 o' clock should be the 12 o' clock, but I'm really just guessing too. I think we have a guy here who knows a little bit about these Nabataeans, though. He ought to be around shortly :).
     
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  5. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    It will be interesting to see if JA can narrow it down, but Aretas IV seems like the best guess based on the obverse and the type's abundance.
     
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  6. Quant.Geek

    Quant.Geek Well-Known Member

    Slight correction to the attribution in that the legend is not Aramaic, but Nabataean. Derived from the same script though...
     
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  7. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    Thanks QG I lifted the text from Wildwinds. I will edit.
     
  8. Quant.Geek

    Quant.Geek Well-Known Member

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  9. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Cool, I still wouldn't mind getting more. my onlt one from Secret Santa last year.

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    Malichus II & Shuqailat II (40 - 70 A.D.)
    Nabataean Kingdom
    Æ Unit
    O: Jugate busts of Malichus & Shuqailatt right
    R: Crossed Cornucopia
    1. WKLM
    2. YQS
    3. TL
    from r. to l. MLKW / SQY / LT
    = Maliku / Shuqailat
    19mm
    2.51g
    SNG X I#I444
     
  10. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    These types were issued by Aretas IV, Malichus II, and Rabbel II. The OP coin could be of either Aretas or Malichus - without the reverse inscription it's difficult to tell by bust style. It is not a coin of Rabbel II. When buying these, look for the presence of the TOP line of script on the reverse, as both Aretas and Malichus had queens named Shaqilat.
     
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  11. Pellinore

    Pellinore Well-Known Member

    I bought a little lot of these attractive coins some months ago. I think this is the same as Mat's.
    Nabat-after.jpg
     
  12. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    I have a small handful of Nabataeans, most purchased as a group. My favorite though is this homely Aretas IV. It is the first Nabataean coin acquired by @John Anthony :).

    I can't believe he parted with it. John, have you no sentimentality whatsoever? I have reassured the coin that it is desirable and that I won't kick it out of the house. It cried for days when it first arrived, but now it seems to have made friends and I only hear occasional sobbing from that box. :D

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    NABATAEA, Aretas IV with Queen Shaqilat
    9 BCE - CE 40, Petra
    AE18
    Obv: jugate busts of Aretas IV and Shaqilat right
    Rev: crossed cornucopia; Nabataean letters between and below
    Ref: Meshorer 112-114?
     
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  13. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    The clearest Nabataean legend I have is of queen Gamilat. It reads from right to left, just like all Semitic languages. The obverse shows king Rabel II.

    Nabat  Gamilat.jpg Nabat Rabel2.jpg
     
  14. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I do indeed. I like making my friends happy. :)
     
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