A Rare Vespasian Variant

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by David Atherton, Jun 20, 2016.

  1. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Call me an obsessive, but I just had to have this minor variant.

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    Vespasian
    AR Denarius
    Ephesus Mint, 71 AD
    RIC 1434 (R), BMC 459 var., RSC 293 var., RPC 835 (14 spec.) var.
    Obv: IMP CAESAR VESPAS AVG COS III TR P P P; Head of Vespasian, laureate, r.
    Rev: PACI ORB TERR AVG; Bust of woman, draped, wearing crown of towers, r.; EPHE in l. field

    RIC, alone among the major references, assigns a separate catalogue number to this rare variant with the mint mark behind the reverse bust. It's much more common to find the mint mark below bust. This variant seems to have been struck at a ratio of 1:10 compared with the common variety.

    Vespasian's Ephesian series could keep a Flavian collector busy for several lifetimes.

    Feel free to post your Vespasians, minor variants, or Ephesian gems.
     
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  3. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Okay. You're obsessive :p :D

    But I really admire your focus and determination! That's a flavorful addition to your Flavian feast :).
     
  4. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Not obsessive by any means. You're just all-consumed. Oh, and I really like this new coin.
     
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  5. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    no...i'd say your obsessive..like for sure. :wacky:

    but that's a dang fine lookin' coin!:woot:
     
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  6. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Beautiful coin David. Great pickup. Here are my favourite coins of Vespasian.

    new vesp combined.jpg vesp ric 108.jpg Vesp ric 850 combined.jpg vespleft.jpg
     
  7. *flaviusful
     
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  8. New Windsor Bill

    New Windsor Bill Well-Known Member

    I just got a nice Bronze one on ebay for $5. got lucky
     
  9. Magnus Maximus

    Magnus Maximus Dulce et Decorum est....

  10. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Neat find, David. Congrats.
     
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  11. New Windsor Bill

    New Windsor Bill Well-Known Member

    Very nice coin, congrats.
     
  12. New Windsor Bill

    New Windsor Bill Well-Known Member

    I am posting my recent win on ebay. Not near as nice as the others but the nicest I own so far.
     
  13. New Windsor Bill

    New Windsor Bill Well-Known Member

    Had trouble with the pics, but here they are.
     
  14. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    Bill, start a new thread with them.
     
  15. New Windsor Bill

    New Windsor Bill Well-Known Member

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  16. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I'm OK with both your obsession and TIF's statement. I would love to have the opportunity to obsess with that beautiful coin. Not being a Flavian fan, I really don't care about the location of the mintmark but I sure like that clear mark wherever it is. It strikes me that the bust is a little low in the field to have room for the mark to have been below it so that may be the sole/main/partial reason for the variation. Do you have a 'common' placement example to share for comparison? My only EPE is a Domitian with plenty of space in exergue so that is the obvious place for it.
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  17. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Wonderful addition David!!! I LOVE that unusual variety!! Gorgeous coin!!!

    I lack any of the type (Ephesus), so I'll just post a dupondius I picked up a while back:
    Vespasian dupondius corn and caduceus.jpg
    Hmmm, Who is more 'obsessive', you or OKI ??? Or Martin??? LOL
     
  18. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    I bought the more common variant almost a dozen years ago from an eBay seller now out of business (some may recognise the photography). The bust does indeed sit a little higher on this one. I like your theory.

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  19. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    You mentioned this coin is bronze - sorry to say it's actually a modern copy of a common denarius (RIC 546). If genuine, that coin would retail at minimum around $150.
     
  20. New Windsor Bill

    New Windsor Bill Well-Known Member

    This is not the one I purchased. This coin is on ebay right now selling for $250.It is located in Israel and they claim it is silver with a black patina. Thank you for the heads up. If you want to see it on ebay I will get you the item #. Thanks again.
     
  21. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Whew! Sorry, I thought this was the coin you purchased.

    At any rate, I'd steer clear of it.
     
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