Is this real?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Swervo513, Mar 27, 2023.

  1. Swervo513

    Swervo513 Well-Known Member

    Hi all. Just bought this and was told it was a counterfeit. Can you all confirm? 381F78E6-BCC4-4222-BA4E-0F478E18783F.jpeg
     
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  3. GH#75

    GH#75 Trying to get 8 hours of sleep in 4. . .

    That is a pretty bad fake. Compare here.

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  4. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    I sure do hate to break bad news, but yes... That's fake.
     
  5. Cherd

    Cherd Junior Member

    I'm sure that there are other ways, but if you couldn't tell simply by looking at it, then measuring the mass and volume (or simply diameter) would be a good place to start. Actually, if you had a magnet then that would be an even easier place to start.

    I'm pretty sure that, if you've checked the density parameters, then the only way for a fake gold coin to be tricky is if it is predominantly made out of tungsten. Might be wrong though.
     
  6. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Sorry fake...
     
  7. Swervo513

    Swervo513 Well-Known Member

    I hurried back to the coin shop and the dealer was shocked but immediately took the coin back and offered this 1904 Liberty as a replacement. He also gave me the Morgan dollar for free as consolation and the 2 ounce silver round at Spot. This is why I Post my purchases. I’m grateful to be part of this community and have the combined years of experience to share.

    I’ve also learned how to spot this particular fake. There are many give away since you start looking for them.
     
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  8. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Do you have photos? 1904 Liberty?
     
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  9. Vertigo

    Vertigo Did someone say bust?

    I wouldn't have taken anything else from that coin shop.... except my money back...
     
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  10. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Have you checked your dealer's credentials? If not, you should. Thank you for being grateful. It's always better to be safe rather than sorry. Thanks for sharing and good luck with future purchases.
     
  11. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Looks Brass! Get your money back please. ;)
     
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  12. David Betts

    David Betts Elle Mae Clampett cruising with Dad

    And a very poor try to! If he didn't know that was fake I'd look over 04 Lib too!
     
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  13. rte

    rte Well-Known Member

    Did the dealers face look something like the coin?
    They may have know it was suspect.
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    Wow bought from a dealer?
    Was there another gold eagle you could compare it with in the shop? (Color is off)
    I'd like to know the specifics of what it weighed and dimensions. Color is suspicious.
     
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  14. rte

    rte Well-Known Member

    Looks gold electroplated.
    Too yellow for 22k.
     
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  15. Swervo513

    Swervo513 Well-Known Member

    I returned the coin so I can’t weigh it. The Lib is in the picture below. I certainly learned something about how to spot a fake. I’ve done business with him before and he was very apologetic. He seemed to not know himself. I feel a bit ashamed for not knowing but hey. It’s a learning journey. The lib looks good to me but I’ll let you guys judge.
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  16. rte

    rte Well-Known Member

    I'm no expert, but I still check out every purchase.
    Preferably before I throw cash across the counter.
     
  17. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Come on both sides. LOL
    I don't know much gold, but I like the look the look of mint luster. The morgan looks good too.
     
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  18. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    I don’t even own one of these and can tell it’s questionable
     
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  19. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Next time ask him to see similar coin.
     
  20. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    The dealer must of known the coin was fishy. Tell your friends
     
  21. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Look at the lines thru the date
     
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