This is What $5 Buys

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Bing, Jun 19, 2016.

  1. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    A few weeks back, I saw this coin on the bay with a starting bid of $4.99 plus shipping. I found the reverse interesting enough to place a starting bid at that price. Well, no one else wanted it I guess. So it goes into my coral.

    However, now I am having a little difficulty in attributing the coin. I believe it was struck at Amphipolis, but I can't find a match. I would appreciate help with the identification, but here is what I think it may be:

    Amphipolis, Macedonia
    AE19

    Obverse: Head of Artemis right
    Reverse: AMFIPOLITWN, two goats standing on their hind legs, butting heads.
    6.6g, 19mm

    Amphipolis.jpg
     
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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    No one has any ideas?
     
  4. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Dang...give the experts a few minutes!!!
     
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  5. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Let's go ride our bikes!
     
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  6. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

  7. THCoins

    THCoins Well-Known Member

    I think Artemis is Zeus ?
     
  8. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    To ME, it looks like Seaby-Sear Greek Vol 1 1394

    168-149 BCE or after Amphipolis AE 22;
    Obv: Diad hd of Artemis Touropolos r., bow and quiver at shoulder;
    Rev: Two goats on hind legs, contending, face to face. AMFIPOLITWN (Greek)

    But I am not sure if yours is a monogram on reverse (Sear uses the RX -medical symbol - which might mean a Monogram of Amphipolis) My guess only.
     
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  9. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    @Alegandron: Sear 1394 is what I have found, but the monogram is different. Unless someone can come up with something better, that's what I will use as identification. Thanks for taking a shot at it.
     
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  10. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Five bucks for rampant confronted goats? I'll take four :)

    Amphipolis under Roman rule appears to be correct. Here's one from CNG's archives, perhaps from a different magistrate?


    http://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=186376
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    MACEDON, Amphipolis. Circa 187-168/7 BC. Æ (19mm, 8.71 g, 12h). Laureate head of Zeus right / Two rampant goats. Touratsoglou, Macedonia 2; SNG ANS 118

    There are a couple of similar coins in acsearch, one with obverse of Artemis and the other with obverse of Apollo, according to the listings... but they (the Artemis and the Apollo) look the same to me, whichever deity it is.

    There's also one currently on Vcoins, with the "Artemis" obverse.

    Bing, I don't think yours is Artemis or Apollo. That portrait is very Zeusy. :)
     
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  11. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Thanks @TIF. That one looks even more like it with the exception of the monogram. Both have an "E" in the upper left field. My coin is in rather rough shape on the obverse, but the reverse is clearer than either the CNG or Vcoins examples; however, the differences in price is astounding.
     
  12. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    With all the bathroom rule changes, it could be Artemis...
     
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  13. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Dang, TIF beat me to it again!!:rolleyes::D

    Cool coin for that price @Bing !!!:mad::p
     
  14. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

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    I have no idea what you seek beyond what has been said. The head strikes me as Zeus. The type seems to be common in that time period. Mine is from Thessalonika but similar in spirit.
     
  15. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Just verification of what I already found and perhaps some understanding of the monogram.
     
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  16. THCoins

    THCoins Well-Known Member

    I doubt the attribution of the CNG coin. Why would it be from Amphipolis if it clearly reads (Th) E S / S AL O ? Also for the OP coin Thessalonica would seem most likely.
     
  17. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    @THCoins: Well, now, Moushmov 6595 Thessalonica, Macedonia, AE19 one looks like a match except the monogram.
     
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  18. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    That monogram is what is throwing me.
     
  19. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Common? I don't see many in archives. I'd like to have one. Yours would be be very welcome at my house :D.
     
  20. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Whatever it turns out to be, congratulations Bing. You are truly the king of the bargain and budget coins.
     
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  21. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Thank you, but I'm not so sure this one was a bargain or not. Yes, it only cost $5 for a coin over 2000 years old. That in itself is a wondrous thing. But if I cannot fully identify it, Thessalonica vs Amphipolis, monogram ID, etc, it will bug me forever.
     
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