Domitian Denarii - Scratches and a Chip!

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Nemo, Jun 18, 2016.

  1. Nemo

    Nemo Well-Known Member

    A few days ago Mr. Atherton showed off a wonderful coin that many other collectors would have ignored. https://www.cointalk.com/threads/scratches-but-what-a-portrait.279992/

    Here are a couple of my recent purchases of the same emperor that I feel fall into that same category. I'm simply upping the ante with a chipped coin as well!

    DomRIC737.jpg
    Domitian AR denarius, Rome mint, 92 AD
    O: Laureate head of Domitian right, IMP CAES DOMIT AVG GERM P M TR P XI.
    R: Minerva left with thunderbolt, spear and shield, IMP XXII COS XVI CENS P P P
    - RIC 737 (R2), BMC (Specimen acquired 1977), RSC -

    Rather than being drawn to the scratches and chip, my eye goes to the portrait and the beginnings of a subtle iridescent toning.
    DomRIC425.jpg
    Domitian AR Denarius, Rome mint, 86 AD
    O: Laureate head of Domitian right; IMP CAES DOMIT AVG GERM P M TR P V.
    R: Minerva right with spear and shield; IMP XI COS XII CENS P P P.
    - RIC 425 (R), BMC 88, RSC 194
     
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  3. New Windsor Bill

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  4. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    A little chip is not so big a deal when you have such a nice portrait of Domitian. I bet the price was right too due to the little imperfection. Nice find!
     
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  5. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Great coins @Nemo . I have 2 scarce denarii of Domitian and I am always on the lookout for more. Here is one of mine. Yes I have posted it before, but it is one of my favourite coins. According to David it was probably minted in the first few weeks of Domitian's reign as Augustus.

    Domitian. AR denarius (18.1 mm, 3.36 g, 7 h). Rome mint, struck A.D. 81.

    Obv: IMP CAESAR DOMITIANVS AVG, laureate head right

    Rev: TR P COS VII, draped throne, back decorated with grain ears. RIC 3; BMCRE 2; RSC 554a.

    Ex: William Rosenblum Coins Ex:Agora Auctions March 22, 2016 lot 52-174

    new domit combined.jpg
     
  6. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I own several coins with chips, scratches and the like. I agree, it's the portraits of Domitian:
    Domitian 3.jpg Domitian 5.jpg Domitian 8.jpg Domitian 1.jpg
     
  7. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Great portraits @Bing . I have one of those Domitian Pegasi in my sights, but there are still a number of days before the auction ends.
     
  8. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    That one was struck while Vespasian was still Emperor. Notice the nose change over the years. I don't think he much cared for his profile showing such a prominent Roman nose.
     
  9. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    He definitely has Vespasian's nose in the earlier portraits.
     
  10. Magnus Maximus

    Magnus Maximus Dulce et Decorum est....

  11. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    thx for sharing your nice coins
     
  12. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    Someone took a chunk out of mine. Never got around to photographing it,
    Domitian 20140036 obv.JPG Domitian 20140036 rev.JPG
     
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  13. Nemo

    Nemo Well-Known Member

    Some really fine examples, regardless of flaws. Nice to see them posted.
     
  14. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    RI Domitian AR Denarius 81-96 CE VIC GENS Obv-Rev.jpg RI Domitian AR Denarius 81-96 CE Minerva Obv-Rev.jpg

    Mine have a lot of scratches also.
     
  15. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Nemo, even with the minor flaws those coins are superb, IMHO. Both portraits are top-notch for their issues too.

    If the mail gods are kind to me, within the next week I'll re-up the ante with a problem coin that was given to me free as an incentive to purchase another coin I was thinking over.
     
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  16. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Soon after Domitian became emperor the Rome mint underwent drastic changes, including a stylistic change. His coins struck under Vespasian and Titus were veristic in style, those struck after early 82 were highly idealised. We can gather from the ancient sources he was very vain about his appearance and the coinage bears that out!
     
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  17. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Emperor Q of the Q Continuum...
    Q.JPG upload_2016-6-19_8-9-39.png
     
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  18. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    All the posts are wonderful!!!

    I picked up these three from Forum a few months ago in quick succession---all struck while he was 'Caesar':

    domitian caesar flamed altar denarius.jpg domitian  Caesar clasped hands denarius.jpg Domitian and mounted horse reverse.jpg
     
  19. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Great coins, chip isn't bothersome.

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    Domitian (81 - 96 A.D.)
    AR Denarius
    O IMP CAES DOMIT AVG GERM P M TR P VI, laureate head right.
    R: IMP XIIII COS XIII CENS P P P, Minerva standing right on capital of rostral column, holding spear and shield, owl at foot right.
    Rome Mint, 87 A.D.
    3.3g
    19mm
    (RIC [1962] 92), RSC 218, BMC 103
     
  20. AngelDeath

    AngelDeath Well-Known Member

    I don't think any 2000 year old coin is FLAWED.

    I certainly like the philosophy of focusing on the character of the coin.

    I like Ancients to show their age IE if a coin is to perfect sometimes it loses its History/Mystery.

    In my opinion lol
     
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