Hello Everyone, I found this 1832 Bust Dime metal detecting yesterday. I about passed out. Appears to be in amazing condition. I soaked it in water and rinsed it to get the dirt off and thats it? I know nothing about older coins. What condition do you think its in? Value? The photos below are the same coin in different lighting. Thanks for your help.
First: Welcome to CT! Second: Nice find. Third: NEVER hold your coins like that. If you must hold your coins, ALWAYS hold them by their edge. Never let your skin touch the faces.
Heck of a nice find . Looks like it was a high AU coin when dropped . What area of the US did you find it in , as it doesn't look like most ground finds ? I'd guess a nice dry climate like Arizona .
Believe it or not I found it along the Little Miami River outside of Cincinnati at a really old park dating back to 1800. I video taped it in the hole once I found it. Lots of old pull tabs.... My best find to date. After research I found out there used to be a mill here. I went back today and dug a war nickel that was also in decent condition with one side green on the other partially preserved. As soon as it cools off I will be going back to comb this area. I could only spend about 30 minutes there today.. way too hot and humid... and bugs everywhere.. LOL Do you think this coin is worth getting graded or would it be not gradable because of being in the ground? Thank you for your help.
I believe it would be considered environmentally damaged due to the pitting on the reverse, but still a great find and in very nice condition for being in the ground so long.
No it isn't worth grading, you can see some environmental damage from being in the ground so long. You should never clean a coin, that will make it a details coin if the enviro doesn't.
I was just thinking dry , but you're right . It would be more likely to find some reals in that area , though who knows . lol
Nice dime but Env. damage My Great Great Grandfather was born in Ohio, NE of Cincinnati in 1832 I have 38 - 1832 Bust Half Dollars in various different grades.
I have to disagree, since the coin cost him nothing and the only cost to be amortized is that of grading. JR-4, I think - leaning 8, high 2, wide space between S - O. Details are no worse than high EF, and it's probably a $200 coin to the right person as-is (assuming Environmental Damage or Cleaning). @ToughCOINS, opinion pls?
Thats awesome McBlz. The Greater Cincinnati area is a great place to live and detect due to its age. Thank you for your responses about the condition and next steps. I put it in a nice airtite and am going to leave it as is. I may send it in to get graded later, but at this point due to the environmental damage and not having any other coins to send in, it wouldn't be worth it.
It's interesting to think about the person who dropped this. It probably was a lot of money to them and probably caused them a lot panic when they realized they had lost it. Still an awesome find!
Glorious. For many of us, the appeal of numismatics is as much the story behind the coin - the history, the provenance - as it is any consideration of condition or eye appeal. I wouldn't care if you'd sent it through the washing machine (OK, well I'd care then ), it's still a wonderful addition to any collection.
It's not a cherry, but it's too nice to not receive a grade at all, and it is the JR4 . . . I think the services would probably market grade the coin XF40 rather than bagging it.
For all you metal detectors. To the people that think you can not find old coins out west, and the one's that think you can not find high grade coins in the Ground. Before moving to Alaska 40 years ago, I lived in Colorado before moving up here. I started metal detecting in CO in 1975, I joined a metal detecting club, and we would Go to the SW States, Arizona, New Mexico, Utah, Wyoming. I opened a metal Detecting Shop, Coin Shop, and Prospecting Shop Combined. I know Arizona did not become a State until 1915. I found many coins from the time Peorid he is speaking of. I found half dimes, flying eagles, 3 cent pieces both nickel and silver, found everything except a gold coin. Found CC Mints, O Mints, S Mints, D mints, every mint except the first one in Georgia. Oldest coin 1797 Large Cent. As far as condition goes, a lot of the soil in COLO Parks, old church's, schools, old amusement parks, swimming areas, places where people gathered, had a real dark soil almost black and moist. The silver coins would come out in the condition they were lost.one of the rolls of half Dimes that I have all have a hole in them, they were popular for women to wear on charm bracelets Back in those days, Metal detected around the out side of the Denver mint, the state Capitol, If you have ever read the book Titantic, Molly brown survived it, she had a mansion in Denver, I metal metal detected around that mansion. Her Husband made his millions from the Cripple Creek Gold mines and there were many more just like it In Colo Springs there was A Blvd called the Million Dollor Row, all Mansions from the Cripple Creek Gold Mining. If you have ever heard of the Royal Gorge Bridge, it was not built until 1928, the first time that my Girl Friend I had at the time, we hiked along the railroad track from Canyon City CO, to get under that bridge. It used to be famous back in the old days, when people got divorced they would toss their weeding rings off the bridge. We found so many coins that we could not carry them out, so we had to hide them and go back the next week to retrieve them. Many of them were from the 1800's even though the Bridge did not open until 1928. I will not even go in to the gold and silver rings we found. People back in those days would keep coins for years . One Sat morning in Pubelo at a place called Mineral palace Park, between the street and side walk where at one time there use to be a bank a cross the street that had been torn down years before, I dug a 1908-S quarter which I still have all my coins, the quarter looks like it was just came from the mint and some one walked across the street and dropped it. It is a semi-key date, look it up In the red book. As far as coin shooting goes I was lucky and hit it just at the right time. I know there is no way you could get away with it now. So you can find a gem coin any time, you just Never know where or when. It is not like it use to be, but to all you metal detecting guys do your research and you can still find a nice coin here and there. I spent the late 1990's going to Arizona Nugget hunting.I will not go into that now, but I must have been lucky. I did real well, Lost treasure did two articles on my nugget hunting. One more thing to you coin shooting guys, if you go to your Local news papers and ask to look at their old micro fish, you will be surprised at how many Places that people use to go and hang out that people have forgot all about, and don't forget to check all of the old swimming holes. Due to my health and age 2002 was the last year I was able to metal detect. Also if any of you live near ski slopes hit them early spring. I have found about anything you can think of under te ski lifts. Good luck to all, glad to hear that some of you are still detecting.DAV-ALASKA-MIKE.
Wow Michael... You have lived an awesome life. It must have been awesome to be able to easily find silver back in the day. When did it start to become really hard to find silver coins. 1980's 90's? You are right about never knowing what you will find. I was not expecting to find anything but clad and out pops a bust dime... Amazing. That is what makes this hobby so great.
Thanks Tough COINS.. I agree, there doesn't really appear to be any corrosion to my eye and I doubt the coin was ever cleaned in the ground.
Hi, Actually it seemed about the mid 1980's it began to get a lot harder. I think that I must Have been one of those guys you hear about that just had the knack to finding things. There is another thing that I have always wondered about. My last tour in Viet-Nam I was Ina special recon unit, we operated in a six man team to try and find where the gooks were then report It to intelligence. One day we were hacking our way through a triple canopy jungle trying to find a clearing big enough for a Huey helicopter to pick us up. It just so happened a heavy tank company came busting through the jungle and offered us a ride. I was riding on the 5th tank standing outside on the left fender. Previous one of our B- 52 bombers Had dropped a 1000 pound bomb that did not go off. The gooks refused the bomb and had a guy sitting on the side of the hill with como wire to the bomb. The 1st four tanks ran over it. There were Four more tanks behind us. But he decided to set the bomb off when the tank I was riding on Went across it. Sorry to make this so long but I have to include it so you will under stand. Any way I remember the noise and a bright light, the next thing I remember about four days later I woke up in a Hospital in Janpan. I was totally dealf for the next two weeks. I thought I would Be dealf for ever. My hearing finnaly did come back. But it left me tone dealf. There are some tones I can hear real well and other sounds I can not hear. I can hear high tones real well and others I can not hear at all. Most songs on the radio etc Ican not hear at all. I use to set my metal detector to a real high pitch. Bach when I was able to metal detect, most of the time when it was a silver coin I could tell you before before I dug it up that it was silver, also if it was a dime quarter half etc. My best metal detecting buddy, God bless him He passed way a couple of years ago, and also a lot of other guys I detected with, when I would hit a real deep silver coin, I would call them other and they would try everything to get there detector to pick it up and they could not heard it at all, even though many times they were using the same model detector as me and other times they were using a different model than me. I even went so far, before I would dig the signal up I would take their detector and pass over the target and I could hear it clear as day. The same thing happen later onwhen I was able to go Arizona, I would dig up 1 DWT nuggets and my friends could not hear them. I have old VCR tapes that people taped me digging such small nuggets so deep. I don' t know why and can not say why. Many times I Have thought it was Gods way of paying me back for the things that I did that was good. One last thing never give up. Anchorage did not even start until 1915, there were not that many people here to lose stuff, but I still used to find silver back to the 1800'S. The last day I ever metal detected in 2002, I went to a park here in Anchorgr where every Tom Dick and Harry that has a metal detected, I found a brand new Swiss pocket Knife laying on top of ground in tall grass, two older wheat pennies, a barber dime and a 1943-S walking Liberty half dollar. I guess you could say what a way to end your coin hunting career. If you or any coin detectors would like some tips let me know. I think I could write a book on this subject, but there are already Zillow books on this subject. If you would like to start a private conversation on the subject, Drop me a line and let me know. Sincerely DAV-ALASKA MIKE
