Harriet Tubman on the $20.

http://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/will-harriet-tubman-be-first-woman-20-bill-n357936

 

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I hope they leave it the same, or issue both designs at the same time.

 

if they want women on currency, why can't be just go back to Lady Liberty? Man those were some great looking coins/notes

 

Since we already have a General Discussion topic regarding this proposal, I moved the recent posts there. https://www.cointalk.com/threads/the-new-proposed-twenty-dollar-bill.263564/ (Edit) If you want to discuss the design of the $20 bill, you can do that here; future posts about Jackson and Tubman and their merits or lack thereof may still be moved to GD ...

 

I have a suggestion. Why not out Tubman on the five dollar bill and get rid of "Honest Abe" who was responsible for the killing of six hundred thousand Americans. She didn't kill anyone and we can save Jackson?

 

I'd respond to this, but don't want to turn the thread into a political discussion.
I will say this to you, Onofrio. You might want to study US history in a little more depth.

 

I think @GDJMSP should run for president

 

The candidates are getting older and older, it seems. Then again, the first head of government of this country (Federal Republic of Germany), Konrad Adenauer, was 73 when he was first elected, and 87 when he left office ...

Christian

 

Age should be less a factor in whether a person is qualified, but maturity should be more a factor. The latter is what would disqualify many present world leaders.

 

A bit of a stretch, yes, but wasn't a completely unreasonable statement. While Mr. Lincoln certainly didn't kill such numbers of people directly, his actions and decisions did contribute to them and infinitely more suffering. Of course death is a reality during such times, but some level responsibility must be shouldered, especially when an offensive war is waged. Historical revisionism, on top of martyrdom, is a very dangerous thing...

 

I did! Then I moved south and got the truth.

 

I originally thought the first post concerning Lincoln was made "tongue in cheek", but as I read the responses maybe I was wrong. I think a person's reaction to the statement has a lot to do with where they were born/live..

Another example of this happened in New Mexico. Albuquerque is the largest city in New Mexico with half of the 2,000,000 people who live in the state. The President of the City Council, on Columbus Day, read a proclamation condemning Columbus and renamed Columbus Day "Indigenous American Day" (Native American Indian), the city school system followed suit renaming the day off that students had for Columbus Day, "Fall Break." This happened because of where Albuquerque is located and what the majority of the residents are, New Mexico is a "Minority Majority State".

 

I live in Albuquerque, in 2013 the population was 550,000.

 

It has grown since then, but I should have said the Metro Albuquerque Area- Albuquerque, Rio Rancho, Corrales, Bernalillo, and Placitas, Los Lunas/Belen might even squeeze in there. The East Mountains has 85,000 residents, now that's a shocker.

 

Where was I born and where do I live?

Unfortunately, I believe you're right.... although I don't agree with the negative implications all too often associated with saying so (not from you, but in a general sense).

 

I guess I should have been more specific, I was born and raised on the East Coast and am a first generation American, both my parents were born in Italy. So that little part about Columbus Day really hurt. On the East Coast they have parades and honor Columbus with a holiday (both the State of New Mexico and the United States recognize Columbus Day). I just felt the irony in calling him a racist, bigoted slave trader was ironic in that he never landed in the mainland, he landed in Bermuda. He was also financed buy the Spanish King and Queen, with three Spanish Ships and Spanish crews. I apologize for bringing politics into a coin forum, but it just seemed to evolve that way with the additional posts.

 

Don't think there is anything wrong with honoring Columbus in the US, be it with a coin or a holiday. But of course his achievements were "discoveries" from a European POV, not for those who already lived in the parts of the world that he explored. And for people who later came to North America from Asia, Columbus was probably not too relevant either ...

Have a look at printing: Around here Gutenberg is usually honored as the man who invented printing with movable types. Well, similar technologies had already been developed in parts of Asia. But this was new in Europe, and quickly became much more common here than it was in China for example. Matter of perspective.

Christian

 

Columbus discovered America in the context of Western Civilization and Gutenberg invented the printing press in the same context. Western Civilization used to be a freshman history course taught in college until the words "western civilization" became code words for racism. And that my friends is why we have the world as it is today!

 

Quelling an illegal insurrection is not engaging in an offensive war.