Toning

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Nathan401, Jun 14, 2016.

  1. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

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  4. BigTee44

    BigTee44 Well-Known Member

    My Dansco albums have started toning my coins.

    I have a few nice Jefferson Nickels and Mercury dimes. The Lincoln's have mostly stayed red while a few have started to go towards RB
     
  5. Nathan401

    Nathan401 Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

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    What is your suggestion? No albums? What's the best way to store them? I really dislike the tpg cases.
     
  6. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    If you want some extreme toning, store it with some acid paper touching it.

    This Franklin proof was in this coin tube for about 30 years, with a wadded up piece of old acidic newspaper touching it.

    Done with care, I think it might lead to some interesting designs. But at that point it's basically AT...
     

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  7. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Yes, no "coin" albums, of any kind, ever. As for your other question, what's more important to you - what you "like", or protecting the coins as best you can ? And no, I'm not being a wise guy, I'm asking a very serious question, which depending on your answer can have very serious ramifications.

    And yeah I understand the presentation aspect, that is why so many collectors use albums to begin with - because they like the way the presentation looks. And for them that is their primary concern.

    But when you buy a coin you buy it because you like the way the coin looks right now, and I believe most collectors would prefer to keep the coin looking exactly that way. To do that, you must use proper storage techniques, or the coin is very likely not going to stay looking that way. It is going to change, it is going to tone, and the way that it tones is always, always, always - a crap shoot. And the odds of it turning out to tone in a way that you do not like, are much higher than it toning in a way that you do like. And contrary to what many believe, toning does not always take decades to occur. If the conditions are right toning can occur very quickly, anywhere from a few weeks to a few months.

    So what are proper storage techniques ? An inert, hard plastic holder - there are many types, take your pick. The holders can be stored in inert albums designed for them, in inert boxes designed for them, or even stored loosely in an inert container - again take your pick. These are then stored in a larger, inert container that can be sealed. And inside that larger container you have to use silica-gel packs to regulate and minimize humidity. And that container needs to be stored, preferably in a dark place, and one where the temperature remains fairly constant. And there can be no paper or cardboard products in that container, or any other non inert materials.

    Do these things and you will have done everything you can to keep your coins looking just like they were when you bought them.

    Don't do these things and you just take your chances and hope for the best.
     
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  8. Are you referring to the blue Whitman coin folders ?
     
  9. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    If he was referring to the blue Whitman folders, he probably would've said blue Whitman folders. ;)

    A simple google search for "Wayte Raymond" should be enlightening.


    I took your first post as meaning you're going to do what you want to do and responded accordingly, but the gentlemen saying it's probably not the best decision are certainly correct. Tossing a few white coins in a folder/album and expecting one day to open it and find gorgeously toned premium-worthy specimens isn't as easy or foolproof as it may sound.
     
  10. Nathan401

    Nathan401 Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Wow, thanks everyone. This is all great information. I'm going to rethink this whole thing. I don't want to damage any coins, I was thinking how cool it would be for my young kids to open a folder someday and have really cool toned coins, which I've noticed folks ( some) paying a premium for. How about a capital plastics holder? They have a short set holder that looks nice. The black would look great behind some brilliant white walkers!
     
  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    And do you know why they pay that premium ? Because most coins do not end up toning those pretty colors. Instead they end up toning brown, black, or just plain grey.


    They're fine, as long as you understand they are no different than any other hard plastic coin holder when it comes to storing them.

    A lot of people, maybe even most of them, who buy Capital Plastic holders do so because they want to display them out in the open, sitting on the table, hanging on the wall, something like that. But that's the worst thing you can do because it exposes the coins to everything you should be trying to protect them from. For coins, the enemies are air (and everything in it), humidity, and temperature changes.

    There is no such thing as an airtight coin holder, which is why they must all be put away and stored properly. That is the only way you can minimize toning as much as possible.
     
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