Having trouble w/ determining error coins (1cent)

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by J. Russ Corp, Jun 14, 2016.

  1. J. Russ Corp

    J. Russ Corp New Member

    Hello all,
    I've been working on buying rolls of pennies(US) here and there for a while now, but no matter how much I look at these things I can't seem to determine if I'm looking at shadows or DD or OMM etc. I have a decent loupe that makes all the details quite easy to see, but as I said I can stare forever at these things and I just start to get confused and frustrated. So my question is; what is the best way to start educating myself on this subject, specifically 1 Cent (wheat or memorial) errors? What are the easy pitfalls and mistakes that a newb would make and what 'hardware' should I acquire to hunt successfully? I know I have a lot to learn but with so much information out there I'm overwhelmed and don't know what series of steps I should take to educate myself, gladly willing to hear all recommendations & constructive criticism.

    Thanks!
     
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  3. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

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  4. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    First welcome to Cointalk!
    Second.. understand that there is a difference between an Error and a Variety

    Here are 2 websites that can help you

    I want to share these 2 webpage with you
    http://lincolncentresource.com/FAQ/errors_vs_varieties.html and
    http://www.error-ref.com/
     
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  5. New Windsor Bill

    New Windsor Bill Well-Known Member

    Welcome. You have come to the right place as this site is full of very knowledgable people who will help you in a heartbeat when it comes to this great hobby. I myself have been a member a little over a month and I have learned a lot in the little time that I have been here. From my experience I would suggest a good reference book such as the MEGA RED BOOK. Available at wizardcoin.com for about $35. This book is loaded with lots of pictures on all different variety types which will help you a lot. I also suggest a good camera setup so you can take pictures and upload them to this site if there is a coin in question. There is even a great thread that was posted not to long ago on this site that teaches you about taking great pictures. Well that's all I can offer, let the experienced guys respond as they will give you some great info.
     
  6. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    1. Get a copy of the Cherrypicker's Guide.
    2. Get an Ott portable florescent lamp. It takes the shadow and glare/shadow off the coins so you can easily see what you are actually looking for.
     
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  7. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Yes, welcome to the neighborhood!

    Acquiring a USB scope (or even a stereomicroscope) can be helpful for posting good, close-up images on sites like this, but you should also be aware that many of the varieties found using these "tools" are not usually attributable by the major grading services. Too often, we hear from newcomers who are anxious to submit such finds for grading, and more often than not, they've wasted their money.

    Chris
     
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  8. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    Well if it cost money to learn a lesson then that will be a permanent lesson learned (at least one would hope so!)
     
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  9. J. Russ Corp

    J. Russ Corp New Member

    Thanks for the tid-bit there, I am interested in varieties then, not errors. Although if I were to come across an error I wouldn't shun it.
     
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  10. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    That's like telling someone, "If you want to find out what happens to that grenade when you pull the pin and let go of the grenade........"

    Naturally, there will be a few who can never be saved, but hopefully, most will heed good advice.

    Chris
     
  11. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Patience is free and you will need a lot of it, but in the end it is worth taking it slow and easy. For me errors and varieties go hand in hand only because it helps to sort out the difference. Both can be fascinating hobbies and you can always sell errors on ebay to help fund your interest in varieties. Read, read and read some more. Knowledge is the key to being successful in any hobby. And of course knowledge is power. As mentioned above, both the Cherrypickers Guide and the mega Red Book are both great investments. If a coin club is available to you, then join, you may well meet others who share your interest. Visiting a local coin shop and developing a good relationship with the owner will help also as they may sell varieties or have an interest such as yours. If you find something that frustrates you after awhile, set it down and aside and move on to the next coin and come back later for a fresh start on the one that bugged you. Hope this helps a bit. Tom
     
  12. tomfiggy

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  13. pennsteve

    pennsteve Well-Known Member

    I had the same trouble. I found what I thought was a 1972 DDO four years ago and posted it here only to find out it was machine doubling. Then last year I found the real 1972 DDO and I immediately knew what it was. Here is a way to help without using pictures. Place your index finger onto the table in front of you. Now place your other index finger on top and move it slightly to the side. See how you can see both fingers, the curve and thickness? Now replace your bottom finger with a popsicle stick. See how it is flat compared to your finger? That would be machine doubling on a coin. Here are both of my 1972s.The bottom one is the DDO.
    72MD.JPG 72ddo.jpg
     
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