Why Do They???

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by collect4fun, Nov 24, 2004.

  1. collect4fun

    collect4fun Senior Member

    Why do price guides, redbook, greysheet, COINage magazine skip grades MS61 & 62 for pricing?

    Is there a way to figure pricing from grade MS60 to MS63? Sometimes the difference is $10 - $20 other times it's hundreds, depending on the coin.
     
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  3. Ed Zak

    Ed Zak New Member

    I still trying to figure out myself the difference between a 61 and a 62...and don't tell me it's ONE! I know that...but seriously, the difference between "slight" and "light" blemishes along with an extra contact mark or two is probably the answer.

    I guess the price guides have only so many columns and they use the popular grades like: 8, 12, 20, 40, 50, 60, 63, 64, and 65.
     
  4. rick

    rick Coin Collector

    well, I think the answer would be in the form of this question: why stop there? Why not list 1-70 completely?

    I think the price guide list only the number that applies to a specific grade, in terms of VF, XF, MS, etc.
     
  5. collect4fun

    collect4fun Senior Member

    I can understand why they don't put all the lower grades, but MS 60 - MS70 should be listed. If people are getting coins graded to "authenticate" them and define value, why not list them?

    I have an 1890 O Morgan graded MS62 by NGC, what is the current "book" value? I suppose I could use the PCGS coin price list of $65, and call it a day.
     
  6. susanlynn9

    susanlynn9 New Member

    I did notice that the Red Book added some MS grades to this year's edition, but not many. On some coins, they dropped some of the lower grades. As silly as this sounds, it may have to do with the way the book is formatted. To include all of those columns would change the layout of the entire book. Perhaps they don't want to make that kind of a huge change.
     
  7. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Check ebay and other realized auction prices. They're more accuarte than the price guides anyway ;)
     
  8. nds76

    nds76 New Member

    Very good question indeed...and on the Lincoln cents, in Coin Prices magazine, it shows all grades from 1909 to 1943 then starting at 1944 the grading starts at XF. Why are the lower grades skipped?

    David
     
  9. susanlynn9

    susanlynn9 New Member

    I believe it's because these coins do not carry any significant premium in grades lwoer than EF40.
     
  10. National dealer

    National dealer New Member

    Well that is what you get for using less than desirable pricing guides. For the small BU grades such as 61 and 62, look to the BlueSheet.
     
  11. Ed Zak

    Ed Zak New Member

    Since 1944, coin values for pennies with the exception of double dies (i.e., 1955 and 1972) and other varieties for coins less than MS condition are really worth nothing more than face value. Of course, if a collector has an open slot, he may pay up to 25 cents to "fill in the hole", but due to the vast quanity of pennies minted and their availabilty, only MS65+Red Lincolns are worth more than a couple of dollars.

    It's not only pennies, but you see the same with all current coins being minted. For instance, dimes after 1965 usually start their grades at MS65 and nothing lower, because a dime less than MS65 condition is worth...a dime!
     
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