Sutler R C Hine... who is he?

Can anyone guide me to any information as to a Civil War Sutler named "R C Hine"?

See attached scan...

Where can I research further?

Thank you.

 

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neat token

 

I have no idea who R.C. Hine may be but its a nice token. There are a few civil war token collectors who are members of our forum, so, maybe when they come by they'll have an answer for you.

 

I don't have any info on him, other than the obvious. R.C. Hine was a sutler to the 63rd Ohio Infantry.
The reverse. of your token, should be blank.
Schenkman's reference lists it as # OH-AB-10B, brass, 22mm in diameter, and lists it as an R-9 (2-4 pieces known).4-5 years ago, a 5 Cent denomination of this piece, which is also an R-9, sold for around $200.
Judging by the color, yours looks to be a dug piece and may be new to the market.

 

This might help a bit, it gives some info on the regiment

http://users.clover.net/1985/index.html


:kewl:

 

I agree this is that coin...and there must be at least two of them in that the one pictured is not the one in my collection. Also... this was a dug coin....dug in the early 1980's from a site where this Ohio vol was known to be.

It is not exactly new to the market in that I got it at auction myself a few years back...

Still... I would like to know more about R C HINE... these sutlers were "appointed" by the govt...seemingly there would be records of same...

 

Maybe someone else has some ideas.

 

you might post that on the ask ngc forum just for the heck of it. i'd recommend the q&a forum too on pcgs board but i wouldn't hold my breath on the reply there.

grizz

 

Thank you.

 

Wish I could post something additional, but both of my Sutler token references are just booklets, and do not get overly in depth. I could give you some really outdated system/id numbers if you would have any interest in that, lol.

 

What booklets do you have?

Please let me know...

Do your references show and or mention this coin?

I have the Schenkman's reference which lists the coin as # OH-AB-10B, brass, 22mm in diameter, and lists it as an R-9 (1-4 pieces known).

Thank you...

 

What's a sutler?

Aidan.

 

A sutler was a vendor who followed the Union army and sold provisions and luxury goods such as are found in our modern day PX or post exchange. He supplied tobacco, candy, dried fruit, canned goods, writing materials (and sometimes liquor) to the soldier who could afford the high priced goods. Many of the sutlers of this era issued metal tokens and paper scrip to insure themselves the trade of soldiers to whom they extended credit. These tokens ranged from 3¢ to $1 with both the sutler's name and the soldier's regiment listed.

 

Well stated!!!

 

Henry,why don't you look on the Mormon Church's website? They supposedly have got records of around a tenth of all the people that have ever lived on earth.

Aidan.

 

Hello Henry,

Yes, my booklets mention the Hine token. Unfortunately I am just heading out the door for work, and will be going out of town until July 1st. Hopefully I will remember to post that info then. Might not hurt to bump this thread around that time as a reminder for me.

 

See you later, old friend.

 

I will attempt to remember to bump the thread...

Thank you.

 

cwtokenman are you back?

 

Yes, I am back Henry. The booklets that I have are:

Sutlers and Their Tokens 1861-1866, by James J. Curto (Reprinted from the Numismatist), no date, 39 pages, softcover. The booklet contains history, sutler related photos, die plate photos (not all inclusive) and a listing of Sutler tokens and scrip. Your 10 cent token is not listed here, but id 112 is related. R.C. HINE, 63D REG.O. V. 5 CENTS Blank (reverse) B (brass) 12(mm)

Sutler Issues of the Civil War (A Supplement Listing with Other Related Issues) by J.J. Curto (Reprinted from the Numismatist - 1963), 25 pages, softcover. Photos/depictions of mostly scrip with a few tokens. This is mostly an expansion of the listings of the above booklet. No additional R. C. Hine tokens were listed.

Rulau does not mention R.C. Hine in his Standard Catalog of United States Tokens 1700-1900.

I have several other more in depth tokens dealing with military tokens, but unfortunately they tend to start just post Civil War. I will list these also in case you (or anyone else) may have a token listed in them that you would like to learn more about.

A revised Check List and Valuation of Military Tokens of the United States 1866-1969 Book I, by James J. Curto, 1981, softcover, 86 pages.

Military Tokens of the United States 1866-1978, Book II, by James J. Curto, 1978, hard cover, 116 pages.

Military Tokens of the United States - Volume I (Domestic Issues from 1865-1994) by Paul A. Cunningham, 1995, hard cover, 440 pages.

Schenkman's reference book that Jody mentioned in post #4 I believe to be the most current and complete concerning the Sutler issues. That is one of the books on my list to obtain. Sorry that I could not be of much help. However, there is some interesting background reading in those booklets.


Jody, I believe that we passed not all that terrible far from your place as we traveled down and up on I-81.