Looking Back

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  1. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Wonderfull posts! Love coins depicting animals!
     
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  3. seth77

    seth77 Well-Known Member

    Is per chance the lion on Brian's last Leo looking back at a cross? To me it looks like there is a cross right next to the lions's head.
     
  4. Brian Bucklan

    Brian Bucklan Well-Known Member

    There definitely is a cross in the field above the lion. This particular coin I believe is unlisted in RIC, as only the lion standing right variety (not crouching) with cross above is referenced.
     
  5. Nicholas Molinari

    Nicholas Molinari Well-Known Member

    Not the prettiest coin, but a rare example of a man-faced bull looking back:

    THESSALY: Metropolis, Early 3rd century BC, AE Trichalkon. OBV: Head of Apollo facing right. REV: Forepart of Acheloios Pamisos as a man-faced bull to left, monogram below, MHT-ROPOLITWN surrounding. Rogers 411; MSP I, 497.

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  6. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Well, while we are at it:

    Illyria, Dyrrhachion. Zenon drachm.jpg Lion Cherronesos Thrace Hemidrachm.jpg
     
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  7. dlhill132

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  8. benhur767

    benhur767 Sapere aude

    As others have noted, the animal-looking-back pose probably became a convention on ancient coins because the curved silhouette of the neck follows the curved contour of the edge of the coin. Simply put, it is good design.

    However, from an artistic standpoint, it is quite a challenge to pull off convincingly because it involves foreshortening and overlapping of forms. The result is much more visually exciting than a mere animal profile where the animal is standing with all four legs on the ground, tail straight down and head facing forward; children draw animals posed like that! It is boring and takes almost no skill.

    Classical Greek and Roman artists were interested in naturalistic representations of humans and animals. Judging by the coins I've seen, most of the engravers were accomplished anatomists capable of rendering figures convincingly in a wide variety of poses.

    The animal-looking-back is a dynamic, realistic, and visually interesting pose that served to showcase the artist's skill and would have delighted the ancient viewer, just as it delights are modern eye.
     
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  9. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Iona-Miletos AR Obol Late6thC fine lion - Obv-Rev.jpg Iona-Miletos Late6thC fine lion - Obv-Rev.jpg Ionia-Miletos Early 6th-Late 5th C Obol Obv-Rev.jpg
    Iona Miletos
    Late 6th C
    AR Obol
    Recumbent Lion looking back
     
  10. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    RR Quadrigatus 225-215 BCE Crawford 28-3 - Obv-Rev.jpg
    Roman Republic
    AR Quadrigatus Didrachm
    225-215 BCE
    Obv: Beardless Laureate Janiform Head - Janus: He is usually depicted as having two faces, since he looks to the future and to the past...Looks forward and back.
    Rev: Jupiter and Victory in Quadrigatus Right
    Ref: Sear 31; Crawford 28/3

    RR Quadrigatus AR Drachm 216-214 BCE Janiform ROMA Jupiter and Victory Quadriga LEFT Obv-Rev.jpg
    Roman Republic
    AR Quadrigatus Drachm
    216-214 BCE
    Obv: Beardless Laureate Janiform Head - Janus: He is usually depicted as having two faces, since he looks to the future and to the past...Looks forward and back.
    Rev: Jupiter and Victory in Quadrigatus Left
    Ref: Sear 35; Crawford 29/4
    (Prior to the Victorati issues, Roman Drachmae are difficult to find...)
     
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  11. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    @Alegandron those are some very nice coins my friend and both I would like in my collection some day.
     
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  12. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Thank you! I have over half of the RR Didrachmae, only one RR Drachmae, and almost all of the Quadrigati variants... Not all in the greatest shape, but fun to have! (Got the message via @ also)
     
  13. benhur767

    benhur767 Sapere aude

    Sorry, I meant to write "our modern eye" not "are modern eye"! Apparently the editing option goes away after a while.
     
  14. Brian Bucklan

    Brian Bucklan Well-Known Member

    benhur767: Excellent take from the ancient artists' point of view. Never thought of it that way.
     
  15. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Cherronesos AR Hemi-Drachm - TriObol Seaby-Sear Vol I 1606 Obv-Rev.jpg
    Cherronesos
    HemiDrachm / Tri-Obol
    ca. Long Time Ago
    Sear Greek Vol 1 1606
     
  16. AngelDeath

    AngelDeath Well-Known Member

    Sort of looking back? sort of back.jpg
     
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  17. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    IONIA, MILETOS.jpg
    IONIA, MILETOS
    AE17 OBVERSE: Head of Apollo right
    REVERSE: Lion right, head reverted, star above
    Struck at Miletos 350-300 BC
    4.69g, 17mm
    Lindgren 513
     
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  18. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    SEXTUS POMPEIUS FOSTLUS.jpg
    SEXTUS POMPEIUS FOSTLUS ROMAN REPUBLIC; GENS POMPEIA
    AR Denarius OBVERSE: Head of "Minerva or Pallas" (personification of Rome) with winged helmet, earrings and necklace, looking to the right.
    Below the chin, it is the "X" (although its value then was 16 aces) and behind the bust is a small jar
    REVERSE: FOSTuLVS left and Sextus. Pompeius. to the right of the field. She-wolf suckling the twins Romulus and Remus.
    Behind Ruminal fig tree is represented with three birds in their branches. On the left, the pastor Faustulus figure in an attitude of admiration for the wonder he sees. ROMA in ex
    Struck at Rome 137 BC
    3.63g, 19.5mm
    Cr235/1a; Syd 461; Pompeia 1
     
  19. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    M. Plaetorius M.f. Cestianus.jpg
    M. PLAETORIUS M.F. CESTIANUS ROMAN REPUBLIC; GENS PLAETORIA
    AR Denarius
    OBVERSE: Bust of an Vacuna right, wearing a wreathed and crested helmet, bow and quiver on shoulder, cornucopiae below chin
    REVERSE: M PLAETORIVS M F AED CVR Eagle right, on
    thunderbolt, head left
    Rome 67 BC
    3.7g, 18 mm
    Cr409/1; Syd 809; Plaetoria 4
     
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  20. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Wow, looks like a bankers mark right in the choppers!
     
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