Scarce Philip II

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  1. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Weighing 19.33 g., this bronze coin of Philip II is rated scarce by RIC. It has Tyche on reverse, ram above, and star below. The coin was struck in Antioch. BMC 575. Glad to read your comments. Philip II ANT  BMC 575 scar.JPG PhilTyche R    ram star.JPG
     
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  3. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    I like Tyche. Its always important for the Ancient Coin collector to venerate Fortuna. How else will you maintain your fortune.
     
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  4. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Very nice @7Calbrey ! The only Philip II that I have is one from the Easternmost City of the Empire...

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    Roman Imperial (Provincial)
    Philip II
    Nisibis, Mesopotamia. Struck as Augustus, 247-249 AD.
    The easternmost city in the Roman empire.
    25 mm. 12:00.
    quadrastyle temple with city goddess within.
    Sear GI 4157. BMC Greek 28 (Nesibi, Mesopotamia)
    From the cool collection of Warren Esty
     
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  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I have this one from Antioch
    Philip I 8.jpg
    PHILIP I
    AE30
    OBVERSE: AVTOK K M IOVLI FILIPPOC CEB, laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right
    REVERSE: ANTIOCEWN MHTRO KOLWN D-E S-C, turreted & draped bust of Tyche right, ram leaping right above, star beneath
    Struck at Antioch, 244-249 AD
    30mm, 14g
    BMC 528
     
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  6. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Nice example---well-centered with the details still largely visible---LOVE Tyche!!!...COOL COIN!!

    I'm missing that particular issue but I recently purchased a neat example of Philip II and Serapis from Moesia Inferior...if i may move around a bit geographically:sorry::)

    Philip II and Serapis  moesia inferior.JPG
     
  7. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

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    RIC = Roman Imperial Coinage. Your coin is a provincial.

    Regardless of whether or not this coin is common or scarce (and I do think you worry too much about such things, perhaps putting excessive importance on it), your photography skills are really coming along nicely!! Good job, 7C :)
     
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  8. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Thanks TIF for this evident remark. In fact, it's Wildwinds which noted the scarceness.
     
  9. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

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    The face on the coin really strikes me as Philip I. My right facer is Philip II. Wildwinds shows more than one BMC 575 and all have a shield at the shoulder. Another point is Wildwinds does not comment on rarity on a regular basis. They post sale listings where some seller may claim a coin is Rare or misidentify it (I know they try to weed these out but some will slip through). Few dealers will advertise their coins as common so the word rare is not something to take to the bank.
    https://cngcoins.com/Search.aspx?IS...1&SEARCH_IN_CONTAINER_TYPE_ID_4=1&VIEW_TYPE=0
    CNG has three of them on the above page but all are really Philip II with shield.

    They also have this Philip I which I believe is closer to your coin.
    https://cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=55804
    They have several shown perhaps too many to call them rare but the listing suggests that it was not exactly found in BMC which could mean they are not all that common either. I would call it a decent, although lower grade, coin and certainly less common than the right facing portraits. TIF is very correct in suggesting we worry less about such things. The overall type is ver common. To be rare, we have to look at lesser details like the radiate crown and left portrait.
     
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  10. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Thank you very much for these elaborated and really generous info. I tend strongly to believe that my coin is of Philip I. The only difference is the weight which is over 3 g. heavier. It seems that varieties are the most intriguing and interesting part of ancient coins.
     
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  11. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Here is another rare Philip II coin. Check out that phat dolphin on the reverse. I call him Piggy as he seems to be eating too much tuna for his own good.

    Phillip II Deultum AE Dolphin.jpg
     
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  12. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    LOL, holy cow, when I first looked at it, I thought it was a fat deer laying down (tail being head/nose/upright ears).
     
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  13. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Whale is what comes to my mind.
     
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  14. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    I dont care what anyone says that is a Whale!!!

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  15. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    It looks like a pregnant goose or doe.
     
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  16. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Dude - that's a whale.
     
  17. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Stop disparaging my dolphin. He is very sensitive about his weight ;)
     
  18. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Hmmm... an AMERICAN Dolphin...
     
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  19. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Guamanian?
     
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  20. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    LOL... Probly!!! It's still Murica!
     
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  21. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    here's a similar philip i coin of mine from commagene

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