Any Miliarenses out there?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Brian Bucklan, Apr 7, 2016.

  1. Brian Bucklan

    Brian Bucklan Well-Known Member

    I did a quick search of posts on the ancients forum and could only come up with two examples of the silver Miliarense (a Theo II and Constantius II). This Valentinian I is the only example I own:

    Valentinian Milliarense.jpg

    These coins definitely are larger (this one is 22mm and 4.3gms) and have more interesting designs than siliqua but in general are much scarcer.

    If you have one of these types I hope you can take a sec and post a picture of it.
     
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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    None here. But that is a wonderful coin.
     
  4. Brian Bucklan

    Brian Bucklan Well-Known Member

    Thanks Bing. Not even sure what the plural of Miliarense is as I've only seen about three of them in the past 20 years.
     
  5. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Luv the coin @Brian Bucklan , but I have to punt! No Miliarense here...
     
  6. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    miliarensia
     
  7. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    One here, and proud to say it's a plate coin in Ferando's book

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    Roman Empire, Constantius II, Light Miliarense, FERRANDO, L'atelier monétaire d'Arles de Constantin à Romulus 313-476 - # 1026 Arles mint (Arelate), 3d officina
    DN CONSTAN TIVS PF AVG, Diademed, draped and cuirassed bust of Constantius right
    VIRTVS EXERCITVS, Constantius (soldier) facing holding spear and shield. TCON at exergue
    4,54 gr ; 22,6 mm
    Ref : RIC VII # 252, Ferrando II # 1026 (this coin), Cohen #326, RC #3993v

    Q
     
  8. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Wow, sweet OP-example (congrats Brian)

    Sadly, I don't own any "miliarensia" ... actually, I only own one siliqua!! (man, I need more coins, eh?)


    :oops:
     
  9. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    You sure need more coins !
    How can you just live with no Miliarense and just one siliqua in your trays : sometimes, I don't understand you my friend :D

    Q
     
  10. Brian Bucklan

    Brian Bucklan Well-Known Member

    That's a beautiful coin Cucumbor. Superb details. Interesting that the design is based on the bronze issue of Constantine I (I think it's a GLORIA EXERCITVS type).

    It's kind of odd, just did a quick search and Constantius II and Valentinian each have 20+ different types; and you can't find but a few examples. They seem to be much, much scarcer than many of the gold issues. Wonder why they would strike so few of these?
     
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  11. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    None here either and like Steve all I have is one siliqua....but I LOVE the posts!!!
     
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  12. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Ha I only own most of a fraction of one siliqua.

    Sirmium,Serbia
    Ostrogoths (Gepids)
    Theodoric in the name of Anastasius (AD 491-518)
    AR Fractional Siliqua
    16 mm x 0.64 grams
    Obverse: Diademed draped bust right. - DNANASTASIVSPAV
    Reverse: Monogram of Theodoric ♰ ROMANI*VINVICTA
    Ref: Wroth 74
    Note: Full legend, sharp details, clipped (common for type)

    GepidsC.jpg
     
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  13. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    I have this type as well, but mine is in an official-looking style so most likely it is from Rome (making this a true Ostrogothic issue).

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  14. Magnus Maximus

    Magnus Maximus Dulce et Decorum est....

    You're in luck! Allow me to present to you the pride and joy of my collection: a light Miliarense of Emperor Theodosius II
    Miliarensia already rare but to get one of a Theodosius II is almost damned near impossible without selling a few organs.
    RIC_0392.4.jpg
    Theodosius II AR Miliarense. Thessalonica mint, 408-423 AD. D N THEODOSIVS P F AVG, pearl-diademed, draped & cuirassed bust right / GLORIA ROMANORVM, Theodosius standing facing, head left, holding spear & shield; star in left field, COM in ex. RIC X 392; RSC 20 var (mintmark), 4.25 grams.

    Very nice coin of Valentinian I you have there; I need to upgrade my sole Siliqua I own of him this summer.
    Valentinian.jpg
    Valentinian I AR Siliqua
    Antioch mint
    365-367 CE
    2.1 Grams
     
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  15. The Big Bad Wolf

    The Big Bad Wolf Well-Known Member

    Impressive.
     
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  16. Tejas

    Tejas Well-Known Member


    This coin is definitely not from the mint of Rome. If is was an Italian mint it could only be Milan. In fact, this coin is from Sirmium. It was minted after 504 when the Ostrogoths had taken Sirmium from the Gepids.

    Best
    Dirk
     
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