oversized '82p lincoln

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by heavycam.monstervam, May 23, 2016.

  1. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    I'm pretty sure there was a thread about a similiar coin to this one (don't recall the conclusion)... A hillbilly @ the flea market showed me this and wondered if he had the holy grail. I told him what I "thought" it was, BUT wanted to check with you guys also. Its larger than a Lincoln and weighs the same as a zincoln. The edge appeared to be the same thinkness, forgot to photo the edge.... What is this? A clamp job? A counterfeit??? Thanks 4 replying IMAG1899.jpg IMAG1900.jpg IMAG1901.jpg
     
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  3. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    It's a "Texas penny." Someone pounded it out to look like that.
     
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  4. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    Pounded it?? I'm just playing devils advocate here, because it's not even mine, but wouldn't the edge be thinner if so?????
     
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  5. lincoln

    lincoln Large Member

    Why would anyone go to the trouble of counterfeiting a 1982 cent?
     
  6. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Coin does not look pounded or squeezed. I'll bet it was likely heated and the metal spread under its own weight. Cannot say for sue as this is something I have not tried. ;)
     
  7. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    it has been in a fire...

    Richard
     
  8. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    Haven't you ever heard of a counterfeit error Coin ?? Or are you new to all this
     
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  9. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    Again, the coin is the same thinkness, as a normal cent. I didn't put my calipers on it but I DID stack it on top of another cent and compared the two

    BTW, my theory was: someone heated the coin then put it in a vice clamp with a leather belt. That still doesn't explain how the coin isn't a squoze thinner than a normal one. Unless it had a sharp strike with full rims to begin with possibly
     
  10. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    As a first responder (building inspector) I have seen the results of a house fire on MANY Zincolns, trust me this has been through a fire...
    Richard
     
  11. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    My first reaction but not likely. The fakers would have made it the same size and pawned it as a missing clad layer.
     
  12. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    This is called a Texas cent. It's created by putting a zlincoln in between 2 pieces of leather and ponding it wuth a rubber mallet which enlarges the coin and cracks the plating off without damaging the details
     
  13. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    This, or the fire theory seem most plausible. I still can't wrap my head around the fact that it weighs 2.5 and is not thinner than normal.
     
  14. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Have you actually made one this way or did you read about it?
     
  15. silentnviolent

    silentnviolent accumulator--selling--make an offer I can't refuse

    I have one just like that in my collection of crazy pmd
     
  16. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    What he said, has anyone actually made one of these?
     
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  17. silentnviolent

    silentnviolent accumulator--selling--make an offer I can't refuse

  18. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Calling all fakers, calling all experimenters, calling anyone...

    I need proof! :nailbiting: I do not believe the copper cladding can be removed by beating the coin between leather as one member wrote. :rolleyes:

    IMO, that coin was heated somewhere in the process of altering it. Now, someone PLEASE save me the trouble of trying his theory at home. :watching:
     
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  19. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    It doesn't make "intuitive" sense, but I'm forced to wonder how much you could expand the diameter without noticeably changing the rim, or before you change it enough for our eyeballs to tell the difference. I may have to try this technique. Just for the sake of science, of course. :)
     
  20. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    (@SuperDave cannot see my posts anymore) I agree with him. The oversize coin seems normal in every way including the "bubbles."

    Only difference is diameter. Now, the OP may wish to see if he can flatten one of the tiny bubbles with a fingernail. If it goes down, normal occluded gas. If it remains hard, then heat has bubbled up the zinc into tiny round mounds. In any case, the coin did not leave the U.S. Mint that way; and there is a very slim chance that it may not have ever been there! o_O
     
  21. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    Superdave can see your post now,:woot:(I think)
    BTW Insider, i don't have this coin in-hand but I am super curious how someone made this.

    PPS, idk why you get such a bad rap here, I find you to be quite knowledgeable and have good input most of the time. Minus the colored text and overly used emojis:bag::joyful::jimlad::pigeon::hurting:;);););););););)
     
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